Tuna

Where did all this come from??

Cannot wait for this

6 minutes ago, Wilco said:

I did not post a "jab" like that I posted this:

Is this not literally a jab saying that polls will not save the server? A sarcastic comment, about how it is pointless? That's how it certainly comes across. Seems like a jab to me.

8 minutes ago, Wilco said:

You are acting with this poll upon a personal opinion, Was there a need for a poll ?

Yep. As I said, you are perfectly entitled to have your own opinion, as I have mine. Was there a need for a poll? No, but it helps us as a community to see where the player mindset is (of those who use the forums). If you feel the options are coming out of my personal opinion, feel free to PM as I said and I can add some more options. That said, a poll is sort of opinion-based so I'm not really sure what your point is here.

11 minutes ago, Wilco said:

I could of told you the outcome before you posted it... split between people who have moved on and between people who cant let go while 225 players were on GTA RP with 100 in the queue not bothered about a poll.

Only look at the last general election and what everyone thought would happen. It didn't. You don't know what someone thinks until they say it. You can guess, but you can't know. It might be split - cool! So what? It's just a harmless poll, with no consequences as you have said yourself. So let us vote, and don't shit on it. People who can't let go? Some people, maybe. I can let go, I've played FiveM this last week and I look to continue doing so, despite saying just a few weeks ago I would never do it. I can swallow my pride, I can change my opinion. I'm having fun, and I'm okay with the fact Altis will one day close. I don't think that day needs to be now - that doesn't mean I can't let go but it means I don't want to just yet.

20 minutes ago, Wilco said:

I haven't once said I am not management... but I am not the big leader you all seem to think I am! I have as much power as any other management member, If you are demoralised by my personal opinion then I would hate to live a day in the life of you matey! 

When I said  "You can say all you like that YOU are not the management of this server, " I meant that you specifically are not THE management of the server, as in sole responsibility. Which is exactly what you said yourself. I am agreeing with you. I am literally repeating what you have said. My point is; the perception is you have a bigger say, and as I said, nothing you say will change that, and as I said, give up trying. I am not demoralised in life by you - your opinion does not mean that much to me - but anything negative can be demoralising. Devs get demoralised when people give them a bunch of shit - would you hate to live a life in the day of them? They keep the server going, maybe they should give up - or should they just not give a shit what people say? What an odd thing to say; confused as to what you mean there. I must be such an idiot for having spent 5 years of my life here, enjoying my time here and making friends along the way. How dare I be demoralised and a little sad this might be coming to an end for me. I am pathetic.

27 minutes ago, Wilco said:

Calm yourself down! Go play the server... you are preaching here to a group of already converted people, More numbers on the server will make it more appealing for players looking for a server to join.

If we were having this discussion a few years ago I probably would need to calm down. I'm perfectly calm! I have played the server today, I played on Altis while I sat in the queue for FiveM, after failing to get in from position 90 at 8pm I was down to about 60 at 10:20. Cool! I did some cooking today, got a bunch of lectures and revision done, and came on at 8pm to relax, and chill. I did all of that, playing on Altis, sat in the queue, preaching to all these converted people. Did an air test, and helped with a lobos test. It's been a good day today actually!
As I hope you would be able to see; there is not only FiveM players here - enough people have come out today to say they are not done, thus they are not converted. Altis developers are not converted - else they would not continue working as they are. YOU may be converted, and you're right that a lot of people are! But not everyone. And everyone is allowed to voice their own opinion, yes? People logged on today where they could to show that they would like to play the server amidst this debate. But there is only so much that people logging on can do - if there is still a lack of activities rebels (something which I know is being worked on, and is no reflection on the dev team as it has been an issue for 2-3 years now) people would be left standing AFK and breaking server rules! This is not a simple problem, with a simple fix. Telling people to log on to make others play is like printing more money because we're in debt. Maybe there is no fix - but that's what this thread is for. For people to say why they are/aren't done.

35 minutes ago, Wilco said:

I wouldn't expect big new features or development like GTA RP (Lets be realistic) and if numbers do drop then I am sure it will be on the management table for a vote of what to do.... that's what we act upon not polls!

No one is expecting that. The Altis dev team does not compare to the GTA dev team in numbers; no one is expecting that - not anymore. Thank you for pointing that out though! As I said, in my first response:

1 hour ago, Tuna said:

I would like to say, I am not in any way trying to organise anything, to say that this is the end for Altis, and therefore that you will shut down the server based on the poll results. But you yourself have said the community meetings are done, and that is okay. But the community has things to say

It is of course a management decision to change the server! No one is saying anything different, I can't believe that is what you have taken out of this. This was a thread for people to voice their opinions and ideas - not a thread to beg management not to close the server, or to demand anything. No one expects you to act on a poll, but wouldn't you rather have more information to act on than less? Unfortunately as I am writing this I find out you have locked this thread - allowing no one to have their opinion. You said you were done voicing your opinion, and apparently so is everyone else - purely because you are? This thread was nowhere near as toxic, or argumentative as so many other threads have been - but it has been locked for some reason that you haven't addressed; just because you've had your say. After saying you were done, you wouldn't post anymore, you continue to argue and lock threads because, presumably (I don't know, as I can't ask you) because you don't want to hear it? Fine. You shouldn't have commented at all - and then you wouldn't respond, or feel that it directly involved you. You said a few months ago that people would no longer be banned for stating their opinions, and that you welcomed them - I hope this is still true. RPUK is a community I have made great friends on, and I hope that continues - on Arma or FiveM; I don't care. It's this community I'm here for now - not the game it plays on.

Have you calmed down? Played the server at all today? I have, much better for it too, spoken to the friends I've made here who play both games. 

I'm glad to see you have taken precisely nothing from anything that has been written today, and that you are seemingly still up for running this as a dictatorship - despite saying this is a democracy. If the thread means nothing to you, and won't affect your actions - leave it open so we can actually all discuss it for the people that want to. Don't want to see it? Don't look at it. Don't want to get tagged/involved? Don't get involved in the first place.

I bid you all a good night, and I look forward to hopefully playing on FiveM tomorrow, provided I beat the queue! Maybe I'll hop on Arma before/after/during. Who know's, maybe a bum on the seat will do the talking.

Nothing personal to absolutely anybody here - but I would at least like to have my opinion in my own thread, which isn't hurting anyone - even if it's just for the sake of hearing my own voice

@FiveM players, please take the time to vote on this poll in regards to the Altis Life server. You may never have played it before and it is irrelevant to you; that is a poll option, but we would like your opinion! This is a big deal for this community that has been around for 7 years.

Please have your say; the more people that vote the better. Spread this around to your friends if you see it. A quick tick is all that is needed, and it really matters to us.

What warrants a forum ban?