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Tigerforce

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  1. am concerned with my hours. But in all seriousness sad to see the RPUK ARMA is ending. was my first server and last server on arma i was apart of. Very sad to see it go but thank you to all thoses that made it happen. met a lot of people here and made some good mates along with help me with my social and communications problem's aswell.
  2. Hey mate, Cheers for this i had a lot of fun to with the rp situation shame we lost you at the hospital due to all the chaos but good job from yourself for giving us a unique situation rather then the a dull non creative one.
  3. I have been on GTA 5 for a while and as police I have been under the impression someone has to have the hands up HOWEVER others have different opinions and when I asked staff I was given conflicting answers. So basically what am saying is when it comes to restraining what is allowed and what is not allowed?
  4. To begin with @Pikle Jusethose were just my personnel suggestions and appreciate you tell me what you think of them. I would be lying if i said i wasn't biased towards the police cause by nature everyone is and so giving your opinion on is much appreciated. @ThomassYeh mate i hear ya but unfortunate due to (in my opinion) firearms incidences and little to do its led to nobody going the extra mile for RP and instead i can end this quicker in a gunfight.
  5. Fair play mate ill give yas that HOWEVER i hope you can understand how this excuses has wide use and has got to the point of a joke now. There are other RP reasons for selling drugs available. My main point in the who thing was to set out that BOTH sides are to blame for the RP standards and they do need improving in addition to put a few SUGGESTIONS. For me the leaflet excuses has been use that much it has ruined it as a reason and instead been hijacked by other players leading to the reason why police are denying it which is a shame but as the old saying goes abuse it lose it. Just to further this is something i did miss when people went out of their way to make documents. Although i understand why people don't. RP is RP make something out of it end of the day i don't think anyone comes onto the server with the mindset "I want to complain / not have fun and take everything personally". Theses are the RP situations the police properly wants. Unique stuff like this although the leaflet excuses has been ruined (In my opinion) it always worth a try. But as i said before people really do need to learn to lose situations at times rather then complaining whether that be ingame / forums / discord / twitch streams the lot.
  6. Fair enough mate and am sorry to hear you have had bad experiences however as mentioned in my original post, Simply saying Doesn't help anyone and if you had been a bit more descriptive in the original post it would have been better rather then leave it to seem like you were saying all cops are terrible and as i mentioned before in my previous post all sides are to blame for the RP standards and balance.
  7. Okay here we go. Before i begin i just want to say there is a high chance of spellings / grammars or other English related mistakes i am sorry about that. I think my the message is clear but as mentioned theres a chance some things may not be understandable and for that i am sorry. In regards to the actual point of the topic. To begin with its not a dumb questions and is something people may want to know, In regards to TC (PIT) its is all situational based and different SGTS+ may authorise it at different times under there individual criteria + general risk assessment. Its is common practice that TC is made during high risk pursuits which can range from active shooters to hostage takings to dangerous driving UNDER low - moderate speeds / pedestrian density and traffic. For obvious reasons this may not always be the case and as mentioned it is situational based. There has been times where we have TC vehicles that we know are gonna out run us in an attempt to stop said suspect. (This is usually done when the person has proven he or she is a danger / poses a threat or have a high risk warrant). With everything else you are gonna have to find out in RP. Now to the argument police have to win. Which many people have nicely brought up with this topic. To begin with Police lose a lot at times from pursuits to shootings due to the weaponry or / and vehicles being used in addition to some game mechanics such as robbing shops and being able to the leave the scene and still rob the place. Stuff like that so to make it clear police do lose a lot of situations. Now What usually kick starts this argument in individuals not accepting to lose, Any officer or anyone who have played as police can tell you for a fact players never want to loose situations, there has been a variety of times where we have been in a pursuit, persons crashed, officers aims tasers and/or guns at the person. person ditches car, starts running, leads to shooting. This happens so frequently that its now just common practice to have a firearm ready. So i would like to ask how are we wanting to win when not only we lose a lot of the times but people do anything in there power to just run and win. Want another example people continuing to run even when realistically they shouldn't be such as crashing at 150MPH just to get out and run like nothing happened. Another example people screaming on the top of there lungs i have a heart condition while running away from police i am yet to personally see a real life video of a person screaming i have a heart condition while running. This is just a few RP situations we get into and yet all it seems like is a terrible excuses in an attempt to run away and terrible RP in general. Want another example here we go the bloody leaflet excuses. It has been told to me both as police and when I am civ to just use the leaflet excuses. I first seen it in traids and i believe It was started by triads in the early days but have now just became universal cheap excuses. I have done many drugs bust and every bloody time i hear "am only selling leaflets / am only passing leaflets" Now for reference rather then using the excuses PoLiCe WaNt To WiN" think about the amount of times police are told this and have turned from a valid and reasonable excuses to literally just another way to say am selling drugs. You want police to start accepting Roleplay make interesting RP situations and excuses and police will more likely to accept said reason. Because some people may not be able to think of some here's just a few I've either done or encountered: Homeless person asking for money Music show (Similar to what you seen in cities where people pay to listen to music) YouTube challenge Charity collections Give foods to the homeless Here are a few and overall ITS A ROLEPALY SERVER be creative, You will notice if you give police creative stories and something that is both realistic and unique you are far more likely for the RP story to be accepted rather then using generic and boring ones. This is the prime example of police denying RP rather then rewarding it to people using the leaflet excuses. End of the day as police we "should" want to RP and talk but at the same time give us generic stories we are more likely gonna turn it down cause like you can tell its just boring for both sides. Another comment i would like to make is linking to this. How does this help, Seriously tell me how this helps us. In addition to this it annoys the hell out of me when people WHO ARE NOT LSPS comment on this like they know everything we do / why we do it and the reasons behind this. Yes we use realistic elements but how we do it is different due to the nature of the server. But no people lose situations "police must win the situation" This argument has been made from the begging of time and is just an excuses for people to win. To make this clear cause something already tells me someone gonna get the feelings hurt i DO agree changes are needed however BOTH sides are to blame and it is not just police want to win all time there are circumstances where police win same as there are situations police lose. If you want this to change then the server needs to change. Here are a few PERSONAL Ideas: Add person damage so when high speeds crashes occur they are FORCED into Roleplaying it while also providing risk when people go 200 MPH making pursuits more enjoyable for both sides Limit guns so not only does it become more British focus but also to get cops out of this mindset of having guns ready or be killed further allowing more RP opportunities and lower the amount of situations that just end in a gunfight. Create RP situations that are interesting for both sides rather then just the generic stuff like shop robberies or pursuits. Be creative and create situations for everyone Add additional police and server rules to combat this allowing for stricter restrictions but at the same time large amount of flexibility. Make all cars speed limit range from 200 or bellow and balance the police vehicles & civ vehicles so TCs are not required in order to give police a chance and create "Dynamic pursuits" Give both police and civs more to do Make the server more balance so it helps remove this mentality. For reference i understand am talking from a POLICE stand point and some may agree or disagree but end of the day at least i can say am trying to help rather then just screaming police need to learn how to lose. ANY MORE IMPORTANTLY THE AGREEMENT THAT EVERYONE ON THE SERVER ACCEPT THE FACT THEY MAY LOSE SITUATIONS WHETHER THATS GANGS / POLICE / MEDICS / CIVS For reference as you can probably tell i am giving my personal opinion and am sure a few may agree OTHERS disagree but i think we can all agree that not only does RP standards need to be higher but everyone needs to accepted defeat at times.
  8. Cheers mate. Likewise always have good RP experiences with you. Just also wanted to say thank you for selling your reliant robin. Much appreciated.
  9. No. Stealing an ambulance is but its fine to steal police cars. Why would i just say am police on another account randomly. Its not something i like to bring up when am playing as my civ characters. You asked me whether i was police in which i responded. I remember you bring it up as another person got involved in the OOC conversation and clarified what i said. i clearly stated to you to stop and not follow us otherwise i would run you off your bike. you continued to follow and as such i actioned my threat That's your choice, end of the day its fine to help the cops if you wish too but in this case you doing so put your life at risk after we warned you numerous times, there were smarter ways to follow us where yoou wouldnt have risked your life i.e. following from a distance however you instead came right next to us so we responded. So you want to close this report? Also am not part of the staff team. As mentioned if you want to talk on ts just lets us known.
  10. @garyatkin83 Have you got a recording of this situation? NVM just seen your comment. Look mate if you want am more then happy to talk about this situation in TeamSpeak tomorrow. In regards to the report itself A) No you didn't what so ever (as far as am aware as the only comments you were making is am i police) B) Not really you have missed a large part of the story. We were in a stolen police car and had just been able to get away from police and trying to hide if I remember correctly. As we were driving off we noticed you were on your phone and following which at the time and you have stated we believed you were contacting police and with us just finishing that pursuit and barley getting away i think you can understand why were didn't want someone following us who is on there phone. After we noticed that We immidently told you to stop following otherwise we would hit you off you bike and as you continued to follow it lead to us hitting you off your bike at that time we didn't kill you but repeated our warning which was to stop following us and repeating our threat that if you do we will kill you, You continued to follow and as such we actioned our threat and ran into you and finished you off. If you didn't want to die you shouldn't have followed us and you cant start complaining about RDM when we gave you every chance possible to leave that situation but you continued to put your life at risk when you driving directly behind us. You were not killed "Outright" you were killed because of your own actions and decisions. Furthermore in regards to "This report is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!" You have strangely missed out your comment after we killed you which was on the lines of "Wait right there so i can get your numbers thats RDM" Which is against server rules as you should know. In regards to any admin who is dealing with this situation the person i was with said my ID was 680
  11. Cheers for that mate. Was extremely funny to watch as well. Thanks for not saying the other parts of the story.
  12. Okay as i have been mentioned a few times am going to be commenting. before beginning i just want to say that i do not have any recordings so i am doing this from memory. First of all am gonna talk about the liaison i had with bosh which is the main reason how and why i am involved. After the situation Chris went to his first liaison with bosh after it was finished i got a message from bosh give or take around 5 mins later asking me to come and talk to him something that i had no issue with. when i joined and it was only me and bosh we were talking and he told me what the problem was and what he was being accuse off along with his frustration in regards to us taking his mining drill and getting different messages from police in regards to the cordon. After a few minutes of talking Chris joined whether it was frustration or bosh tone while bosh was talking Chris began interrupting him and bosh in response did the exact same. it was at this point i said to both of them to let each other speak in response i was moved out by Chris and send the following: https://gyazo.com/d67d2455566f4ff8490d988c1807406c after i was moved i have no idea what was said all i know is that after this bosh and Chris wanted an admin present in a liaison i imagine due to how BOTH of them were acting. it should be mentioned that i had no issue with being moved out as bosh had messaged me saying hes gonna get an admin to supervise nor have any issue with Chris messaging me saying he wants me to stay out of liaison with him as i believed that a staff member would properly be best and bosh main issue was with Chris not myself. that is all i know from the liaison side. In regards to the situation itself i must admit that the advice everyone was getting was conflicting BUT from what i was enforcing and what others were, the general message that was trying to be passed is you can watch but stay behind the cordon. i am unsure whether this message was being passed at the court house as i was one of the last frontline unit to respond and was busy setting up the cordon rather then controlling the crowd of people watching. The reason i mention this is due to the fact that this is the main reason why situation in-game between Chris and bosh happened due to the fact bosh was being told multiple things leading to him getting arrest and his lock picks / mining drill being removed. In regards to bosh's response "the value of life and gunfight" before the video from what i can remember there was a short gunfight however at the point of the video provided you can clearly hear no shot what so ever and from what i can remember we were just cleaning up the situation. the final point i want to make is in regards to the baiting / trolling i Personally do not see it as that what i see is bosh copying other people around him however i can understand how people may see it as Trolling/Baiting. I just want to mention again
  13. j can tell you 100% thats not true as i was the person who shot at him first, he was not in base he was instead driving off road heading towards our outside helicopter pad and you can also clearly see me not in base either in the video
  14. I’m coming for your 16s sir 

    1. Johnathon Reeds

      Johnathon Reeds

      I'm afraid I'll be taking it

  15. So you are "Speaking out". The only issue like i have state is we cannot tell you the reason for the raid because your not "jabbers" therefore when you put We cannot tell you as you are not jabbers therefore non of your questions here can be answered but what i will say is when you said you are mistaken as it was a lawful raid due to intelligence NCA officers have been gathering however we cannot tell you as you are not jabbers. I will add though in regards to the bullying and harassments would you mine adding to this as from what i have seen personally we have not been targeting / bullying / harassing's anyone so do you mind either expanding on what you mean by this or providing evidence as like many before this have said we do not allowing bulling or harassments anywhere making this accusation really important for you to prove rather then just saying it
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