Yous can say this all you want but bans are more public than you think, this community talks to each other, clips get shared, questions get asked as that's what a community is, of course I am not talking about cheaters they deserve more than actions you give out.
How about all the things that are not public? Which is quite a lot, may I add. Certain things are done for a reason, you don´t always know that reason and quite frankly, you don´t need to.
Again we can keep giving anecdotes but it is really not relevant to the situation at hand
Nothing to do with anecdotes - you said people rack up "slip ups" over time, saying it´s unavoidable that a record looks worse than it is - I´m telling you it is more than possible to not get banned every other month. That´s not just me, it´s many other players here as well.
How about you give them a month instead of applying your own maturity meter to them
I´m sorry but if someone is taking up staff time every other week with negative behaviour, be it for a conversation, a warning, a report, a ban, they eventually have outstayed their welcome for some time. Most the players that get a 6 month cooldown either have an extensive record and a history of not learning or caring, or they have really done fucked up. They have gotten their chances in their other 1,2,3 unban appeals in most cases and tbh, chances simply run out.
And the "maturity meter" made me laugh... Such a silly statement, I don´t even know what to reply to it.
Yet another paraphraser not taking into account everything i've said in this thread just cherry picking to apply the thought they can think of. You can keep pushing this take to the most extremist people you want to keep out objectively of the community want out. No we don't want Mass RDMers, No we don't want cheaters, No we don't want mass RDMers, Doxxers nd the rest, but banning someone for 6 months is deplorable
I have taken into account what you said and given you a mature and detailed response. It´s not just about mass RDMers or cheaters - it´s about people that consistently show they don´t want to or can´t learn, having taken up hours upon hours of staff time to try and educate them, which didn´t help, ban them on FBS, which didn´t help, having them appeal, which sometimes also doesn´t stick - I won´t be bringing players back because they only have generic bans on their record, if they keep on doing the same thing over and over.
Well you noted it with keiffer so unless that was an exception or you just really dont like him idk
Again, I said we don´t take them into account, we sometimes mention them when they are excessive, which in his case they were. Who´s not reading properly now?
Like I said I was talking about people that want to appeal and show remorse not some drongos that have no respect for the rules, but yet yous want to jump to the extremists
They are welcome to appeal. They had their chances to appeal on their 1st or 2nd or even 3rd perm, did so and were let back in. Then proved us wrong again... I can´t think of a single example of someone being on their 1st perm ban for a "not so serious" rulebreak, writing a decent appeal and taking responsibility that has been sent off for 6 months. The people that do, either royally messed up or have a record longer than my forearm, so let´s not make this out as a standard procedure, because it is not.
