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Unban Appeal - Ollie Just - GTA RP

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Ollie Just

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Server: GTA RP
Character Name: Ollie Just
Steam ID: 76561199076300160
Ban ID (just the numbers): 16728
Ban Reason: UNK
Why do you think you were banned: Blanket Ban
Why should we unban you: Good evening Staff team i hope all has been well,

This has been a long-awaited moment for me, as I feel I have built up my case in order to prove myself worthy of returning to the community I was once part of and enjoyed daily. I have come forward about all my mistakes with staff, and brought to light anything I deemed necessary. I believe I have done everything so far in my ability to highlight my position is with the community and not against it in any shape what so ever. As stated in previous appeals if there are any questions that may help remove any doubt within the Staff team, all I ask is you question whatever you feel necessary.

I am aiming to limit repeating myself in last appeals so I will keep this short and sweet to save us both time. This is (unfortunately) my first ban and I was well kept within the server rules beforehand highlighting my ability to not divert from the servers guidelines. I hope this also gives you confidence in my ability to produce high quality roleplay and in fact help benefit rather than worsen or ruin the communities experience. Moreover, I hate the fact that my time with “Alliance” represent this ban as it was maybe less than 20% of my time spent on the server. I can only apologise for my lack of accountability at the time and falling below my once previously high standards.

Addressing the C1.6 ban in my perspective is simple please correct me if im wrong. Other members of the group “Alliance” spread unhelpful videos within the RPUK discords. After my ban, I slowly withdrew from the group naturally over time to which I was not initially aware of the discord ban. I feel like this was extremely silly on their end as it cut ties with the community for all of us and weakened our chances of returning, however I am one of the individuals that remained vigilant and disengaged from this type of behaviour.

Admittedly there was a decline in my character, person and over all ability within the roleplaying community and simply let myself and others down. I was taught exceptionally well by members of Grove at the time and feel I let them down as they built me up to who I was. Stavik questioned in my previous appeal “how can we be sure and trust you that you just wont go down the same path and let the standards drop?”. I previously answered this however I would like to elaborate. I have grown older being 1 year and 6 months from my ban, believed I have matured and gained a higher level of understanding that I believe is needed to have in order to provide within the server. Furthermore, I know what high standards are, I was surrounded by huge names and characters which inspired me, I have had the best and the worst and can most definitely notice the distinct difference between the two. I promise I will not let this community down again, im afraid I even did once.

In my last appeal, Stavik questioned “What is high quality roleplay to you” and “At what point are you satisfied with the roleplay?”. Unfortunately my response was clearing adhereing to what I believed was best to be heard. Luckily I have been given this chance to be totally upfront and honest with my responses. If you had asked me this question during my time in Alliance the word “winning” or “chance at winning” would most definitely be in my response. I noticed my mentality shifting and changing to meet the needs of the others I surrounded myself with. However after deep reflection, a year and 6 months after my ban, roleplay to me is forgetting it is roleplay and actively engaging in a scenario. It is showing effort and giving interest into every detail others provide and what you provide to it. The outcome shouldn’t be of concern, but only the present impact you make.


Finally, I would like to thank you for not turning me away and actually taking a chance in my appeal, listening to my case and allowing this opportunity to return to RPUK and show I have not given up. A lot has changed within the community since Ollie Just was once around and I would love to explore these new routes and bringing back alive the character. I would love the chance to return and reunite with familiar faces in order to continue my story and enjoy what once was my favourite community yet.

Thank you for your time and day to go through this and I hope you have a great rest of your week,

Ollie Just
Please confirm that you have read the unban appeal process and rules: Yes
 
Good afternoon @Ollie Just

I hope all has been well?

It has been sometime since your ban. I am going to start this appeal from the beginning, it will seem like you're repeating yourself.

Can you tell me what was happening leading up to your ban? So what was the roleplay, why did standards decline, why were Alliance wanting to fight everyone?
 
Thank you for the response, I hope all is well with you too I am happy to repeat whatever is necessary in order to support my appeal.

With these questions I will initially answer “So what was the roleplay, why did standards decline, why were Alliance wanting to fight everyone?” and secondly “Can you tell me what was happening leading up to your ban?” as I feel this would be easier to explain in that order.


My initial reason into joining Alliance and leaving grove was due to the feeling of being undervalued. With hindsight I realise grove was simply teaching me that “climbing the ranks” takes more time, effort and true meaning. I disliked certain decisions and abruptly left what some would argue “out of nowhere” especially for being there for nearly a year or more.
My initial interpretation was that I would be more valued and heard within alliance as they actively seeked me joining them, on top of the fact that most of them had knew me for time due to previous rp situations.

When I join alliance, whilst I didn’t fully understand yet or realise, I eventually noticed an agenda to be “on top” or become the strongest gang within the server. Unfortunately, it was believed by many older members of the group that “fighting” otherwise seen as “warring” would be the only method to the top. Many members had far more experience than me as they were arguably “big names” within the community so I believed they knew how to incorporate quality rp within a war. As I was fairly new to the group, making decisions was not a part of my rp. My first roleplay encounter with the group was when I initially joined. Its unfortunate to say, but honestly this was nothing like I had experienced in grove, it was a simple hang around a few days and I was in the F6. Comparatively it took me a month or two for grove. My first conflict encounter was with Vagos, this was due to them killing a member of the group and trying to cover it up. It took around a week of talks and engagements which eventually went into a war due to a lack of repayment for the loss of our member. My rp during this war is were I believe I showed what I had learnt from grove (I can provide footage if requested) I gave most experiences my best and incorporated everything I had learnt. This was also recognised by many Alliance members giving me props to my display. I believe the standards began to decline after this during the wars of Cutlass and Aztecas. My honest opinion within the reasons our standards declined was due to this agenda I previously mention of wanting to be the best. The primary focus was “beating” these groups instead of pure quality roleplay. I became so invested with the ideals of this group where I can now see that I declined massively from what I once was. Additionally I felt that within the group, there was “less time for roleplay” it was constantly “we need to be ready for the next fight or group” etc etc. Unfortunately I believe I became a product of my environment due to the influence these names had on the server and community and overall had on me. It cannot be a coincidence that I have a clean record up until my fateful last moments with this group. What I now realise is that this behaviour lead to a overall movement within the group to just become “fragging” as that is what was praised in the end. Initially like I said with me and the vagos war my rp was praised however it slowly became “nice kill” or who won us the fight forgetting the rp was even there.

As for what was leading to my ban, there are two sides to my “story”. The obvious position is me and Alliance. When they needed me I supported, “hang-out”, or just was with them on turf or speaking to other gangs. Fortunately for me I was “good” with almost every gang within the server at the time even those with conflict however I had to set that aside due to the wars so I was able to interact with a lot of people. I also had many goals in owning a certain auction car (if you see my history I was switching cars left right and centre) but funding the battles with alliance stunted this. Leading up to my ban we settled a mutual agreement with cutlass and agreed focusing primarily on aztecas would be better for the group. As well at this time “Abu” was met with police and warned to stop engaging in fights with police or harder restrictions would be placed on us. The police for alliance was always an issue, however the ego that was carried with the group created more conflict that I would argue was necessary. However I will stand by that there was an overall attempt to reduce the conflict with police however ultimately it remained. As you could possibly tell and by you quoted Alliance was quite literally “fight(ing) everyone”. This basically tuned our gameplay into constant conflict wars and gun fights. There was so many that even when I was offline, I came back to hear xyz had happened. As for every gang member, it is known your group is your “family” and you must always put them first within rp, so by me supporting the group in what it needed support in felt right. However clearly it was far too much. Unfortunately the overall summary that of what was happening leading up to my ban was constant fighting.

Whilst there was constant fighting at play moments where I was free from the chaos I had a group of friends who remained outside of gangs or groups in which we would enjoy company and partake in robberies, kidnappings and other avenues of rp. This was who I would be spending time with when I could get a break from the conflicts formed by Alliance. I would not “represent” the gang in fact I would just be “Ollie Just” and his group. I believe my time with these people retained some what of the quality rp I once had in which I taught them they ways of the city and how to provide quality rp. However eventually Alliance “needed me” and within rp there is a sense of duty to abandon all current situations in order to support the group. I believe that during my time with this group ( not alliance) I created fun and exciting avenues of rp, in contrast to my actions whilst in alliance.

Thank you for my time I know it’s a read however I feel it necessary to try and convey my message in the best way possible.
 
Thank for the detailed response

You have mentioned clips of providing quality rp? Please can these be submitted?

Now I am big believing in people can change, especially if someone was caught up in the moment. You do have a clean record and it really is a shame this has ruined that record, what would be your plan if you were given the chance to come back?

You have mentioned that you have drifted from the alliance, what ties do you still have with anyone from Alliance and what part did you play in the videos that went around after the bans?
 
No problem, and thank you for your quick responce,

Sorry, it took me some time going back and finding the clip i wanted, i believe this shows my inspiration and my ability to use "/me" "emotes" the environment around me and able to bounce of my previous members and the person themselves. We did try to rp with some other vagos however they seemed not interested hence the Looc messages. If you require more i will happily try and provide them however im not entirely sure what else i had.

Vagos rp -
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I also feel that it should be necessary to show what i was capable of with the right people and environment. In this scenario Ballas of that time specifically Dwayne and i created a fun experience for a new member of the community whilst we were at war highlighting the rp does not need to involve conflict. I know its a watch but i believe it will be worth it.

Ballas rp (In grove) -
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As for my plan to return the basic answer would be to see where the roleplay would take me. Quite literally thats what i will need to do. I am unsure if i have any connection with people within the city and who remains from my time. I would probably seek advice and support from familiar faces likely being grove. It would make sense Ollie Just returns from a long vacation and notices his "group" are no longer around so he turns to his "old family" and/or those he once shared many moments with. Depending on how they interact i could possibly seek "shelter" with them until i find my footing or i will need to expand my contacts and pursue other people and/or areas. Its hard to say which direction ill go but you simply do not know, which is what makes rp special. Im sure a lot has changed since then so purhaps i would like to gain information from as many people as possible to guide me through the city. Who knows how peoples characters will react to Ollie Just's return.

After the ban i did indeed drift from the Alliance leaving the discord gc and most ties to them. Whilst there were moments i enjoyed with them i simply felt that i knew them though Fivem and that is were it would end. I have received maybe one or two messages from old members however it was nothing extraordinary. I did have a close friend who introduced me to fivem however over the years we became distant and no longer play online together, known with the same surname "Just". As for the videos, the clips where i am seen were provided before their intended use. As many other groups create videos for their group i provided them before the ban, and they were later used to compile the videos that later went around. I had no involvement in their spread or creation, i even refrained from creating my own "montage" compared to many of the group.

Thank you ill look forward to hearing back from you.
 
Good afternoon @Ollie Just

It sounds like you have some plans but I have concerns with letting you back, mainly the standards dropped, how can we be sure this won't happen again?

If standards start to drop again what would you do to combat that?
Do you understand the type of roleplay we want here and how actions leading to this ban conflicted with that?
 
Hi thank you for the responce,

I understand you have concerns, my actions were not on par with what is required and desired within this community. What i ask is that view me by my mistakes because i have so little, this is because i learn quickly and trust myself enough to make the right judgement and decisions. Its unfortunate that this time i did let them drop, however i am someone who learns from mistakes and take them onboard with guidance and an insight to better myself. I can whole heartedly guarantee that i will not let them drop, it will be my priority within this community to prove my worth here and ensure the staff team that my place here is deserved. I have made this mistake, which holds heavy weight, however i know what i can commit to the community.

Previously i was so invested within the “server” not the community. If i notice my standards dropping then i would remove myself, take a break and reset. Luckily my life cannot support the countless hours i previously spent on the server which will reduce the risk of the standards dropping overall. Therefore i simply believe there is no possibility where i can drop my standards like a previously did. Additionally i need to notice a change in my behaviour, in which i did have when comparing moments of my time with and without being a part of Alliance.

I have kept up with the forums of the server and noticed what is respected roleplay and desired and what is not. It is clear that quality roleplay is of upmost importance and will forever be and this is what i will ensure with my time in the server.

I can clearly see the difference and unwanted behaviour i was exhibiting within my roleplay before my ban and can ensure i will show my change immediately.

Thank you.
 
Good evening, a bit rainy, but thank you anyway. I hope yours is better,

Whilst I can understand your question, i find answering this perhaps "difficult", so if you require a different response or interpretation, as my answer is perhaps different to what you had hoped, please let me know, thank you. To answer this straightforwardly as possible, the standard is the highest you are able to put out. There should not be interactions where you change your amount of effort due to perhaps the people you face or how long the scenario has been, every situation always deservers your upmost attention. This "high standard" revolves around creating an immersive experience understanding the importance of the story, and creating enjoyable interactions for whoever you come into contact with. This is the standard that "we are wanting here", as it not only ensures the safety of the community, it also keeps it entertaining, enjoyable and overall helps avoid any "politics" or conflicts within the community. For example if an interaction is clearly one sided, it can put off the person providing all the effort into the scenario, ultimately ruining it for everyone. Thats why this "high standard" is applied to everyone at all times and why it is desired within the community. If i were given a chance to return, i would ensure i reach these standards and maintain them as much i as possibly can, contributing my best actions towards the community.

Thank you,
 
Hello again @Ollie Just

Its a little wet and windy but I can't complain, I love this time of year

So I have looked over this appeal and your record, I am happy to give you a second chance. BUT this will not be given lightly, yes you have put effort in to each response but I don't want this to become just words so what I will say do not throw this back in my face or take it for granted as you likely will not come back from it. I will be checking in over the coming month to make sure you are keeping standards high, do not let your standards drop as you should have now learnt from this by now.

Any bans within the next 6 months will bring you back here.

Unbanned
 
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