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Applebyy
Applebyy
People usually tend to decline garbage ideas

Jordy
Jordy
Vlad Vodka
Vlad Vodka
Soo if i was to suggest LIM's car's CMR's and Type 115's to get removed from rebels and UNMC cuz i get fragged by em too much you wouldnt go, -1?

FergusW
FergusW
I think most people go with -1's because they don't like the idea, not because of their faction.

Khandamir
Khandamir
Get used to it.. If the one ''side'' asks to have something removed the other side has, the other side will complain. I doubt more than 10% of the people here are even capable of having a proper discussion about such a subject, in which they would listen to arguments and come up with counter arguments and in the end manage to agree on a compromise, or agree to disagree. Most people will just ''-1'' a comment, or even worse, reply by saying the other side is only complaining.

If you don't lower your expectations of people, continue to be disappointed. Reality is a bitch =)

Starsky
Starsky
Maybe you're right Khandamir, don't think it has ever been as bad as this, however :)

angellfall
angellfall
Dont really know what you expect to get if you present a flawd idea to the public and public does not like it. Or if you present the idea with falsefied facts, people like it and someone sees that the facts are not correct, then goes to correct you.

Lately people has been pointing out really stupid things what just outline another issues what we have withing the community failing to actually provide anything valuable suggestion vise. My own personal opinion is that people have gotten the idea that by bitching about something and lying about stuff they can achieve changes what would further benefit them.

ThatScottishGuy
ThatScottishGuy
tbh i dont think i have ever used a lim or car or a type 115 so i guess i wouldnt be against removing them. maybe put it up for discussion and see how far you get. (probably nowhere as khandamir stated, people cant have a proper discussion)

Starsky
Starsky
@angellfall My problem is not the ideas themselves, but the reactions to the ideas, for a community that wants to supposedly promote friendliness, it is inherently toxic when two sides cannot at least come to a compromise in order to better the roleplay on the server.

Simply saying -1, isn't critical discussion, and neither is doing it because you are a member of whatever faction would be affected. Maybe the way suggestions are handled is flawed, and should be moderated more heavily to ensure better discussion. 

angellfall
angellfall
@Starsky Gonna have to disagree. Every voice is a someones opinion. Even if its -1 it will contribute to the conversation and towards the goal of getting to know what people are thinking of it. Every feedback is valuable even if its -1 or +1. Its something totally different when people start chatting shit with no facts behind them.

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