@Nick Carraway The first one is a bit too expensive. And the thing about the second one I don't think the throtle is good for helicopter flying is it?
@KingGodDiabloZ I have T.16000M and i was flying DCS on it. It is good. But Hotas is even better cause of the throttle. 55€ for T.16000M and 43€ for Hotas X.