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Soups Nerf

brett_bernstein

brett_bernstein

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personally I think soups are way too op and needs a nerf and gives me the same vibes that smoothies had, it is the meta food that everyone wants without a thought of trying new foods just because they are that good. when the food update first came out I was glad to see that smoothie factories would be gone because they were money farms with minimal if not no roleplay behind them. currently the food at the moment feels like its heading a similar way with mass soup orders that everyone and their dog are making, I feel like things need to be balanced better to give other restaurants a chance.
 
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There will always be a "meta". At least a good filled soup requires more ingredients, work and thus roleplay than a smoothie. I do think each restaurant should be able to make soups, maybe their own speciality?
 
I rarely have free pocket space, soups are a godsend. They also make fantastic prisoner food, I don't personally agree that they need any kind of nerf at all as they aren't particularly available compared to every other food type. You can only buy them in one or two places (to my knowledge)
 
Most of my characters don’t have the room for separate items and tbh I still mainly consume smoothies still.

If anything the price can be raised in RP to fix this if needed.
 
i agree to nerf them, i was selling a good amount of variety untill the overflow change was made on the benches and now places just make like 2k soups a time its also insane as they use bugger all to make and give a decent amount of food and water to show what i mean

Soup - made with 5 bottles of water - outputs a container of soup
you then add in 5 ingredients and then use the container and it turns into 5 bowls of soup

omelette - takes 3 eggs then you add in 5 fillings, you get 1 in return and its only really good for hunger over hydration

now ill break it down even more as to why its also a annoyance to other restaurants

(these don't include payments for time taken)
Soup
5x water £1250 (250 per bottle) (free if you just refill your own water)
5x ingredients £375 (70 each)
totals £1525 per batch - then £325 per portion

Omelette
3x eggs £750 (25- each)
5x ingredients £375 (70 each)
totals £1125 per one

and what that means is people go why do you charge so much im just going to buy soup its cheaper and better and other places just loose out
also as someone with contracts for other business what i hear alot is well we might have to stop or pause orders as we have 5k+ soup in storage or its not worth it now as nobody eats the other stuff only the soup

i believe the issue mostly is that the container of soup isnt being divided when portioned, if the whole container equals
60 hunger 50 thirst then splitting it down should cause it to go
12 hunger and 10 thirst but it seems to make 5 separate bowls of soup that all have the full 60/50

its like apple pie needs 6 apples, and 6 apples are pretty good but the slice of apple pie is only counting 1.5 apples of filling hence the slice not filling that much

so all in all the soup either needs a super nerf or it needs to correctly divide the ingredients stats across the 5 bowls

yes there are other things out there but soup is just really making it hard for other food places

also side note you can just have like 1 5filling omelette and 1 drink and likely get more than you would from the soup but people are lazy and only want to have to deal with the 1 item same as smoothies
 
Samuel Shire said:
i agree to nerf them, i was selling a good amount of variety untill the overflow change was made on the benches and now places just make like 2k soups a time its also insane as they use bugger all to make and give a decent amount of food and water to show what i mean

Soup - made with 5 bottles of water - outputs a container of soup
you then add in 5 ingredients and then use the container and it turns into 5 bowls of soup

omelette - takes 3 eggs then you add in 5 fillings, you get 1 in return and its only really good for hunger over hydration

now ill break it down even more as to why its also a annoyance to other restaurants

(these don't include payments for time taken)
Soup
5x water £1250 (250 per bottle) (free if you just refill your own water)
5x ingredients £375 (70 each)
totals £1525 per batch - then £325 per portion

Omelette
3x eggs £750 (25- each)
5x ingredients £375 (70 each)
totals £1125 per one

and what that means is people go why do you charge so much im just going to buy soup its cheaper and better and other places just loose out
also as someone with contracts for other business what i hear alot is well we might have to stop or pause orders as we have 5k+ soup in storage or its not worth it now as nobody eats the other stuff only the soup

i believe the issue mostly is that the container of soup isnt being divided when portioned, if the whole container equals
60 hunger 50 thirst then splitting it down should cause it to go
12 hunger and 10 thirst but it seems to make 5 separate bowls of soup that all have the full 60/50

its like apple pie needs 6 apples, and 6 apples are pretty good but the slice of apple pie is only counting 1.5 apples of filling hence the slice not filling that much

so all in all the soup either needs a super nerf or it needs to correctly divide the ingredients stats across the 5 bowls

yes there are other things out there but soup is just really making it hard for other food places

also side note you can just have like 1 5filling omelette and 1 drink and likely get more than you would from the soup but people are lazy and only want to have to deal with the 1 item same as smoothies
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W sam shire
 
-1 Its always been the case for me that i dont have any pocket space.

I can max carry around 6 soups at a time and if it came down to it, id have to carry 3 cobb salads and 3 waters, and i would be going to be food places every 20 minutes or so.
 
Barry C said:
-1 Its always been the case for me that i dont have any pocket space.

I can max carry around 6 soups at a time and if it came down to it, id have to carry 3 cobb salads and 3 waters, and i would be going to be food places every 20 minutes or so.
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i mean organise your pockets better
 
Barry C said:
-1 Its always been the case for me that i dont have any pocket space.

I can max carry around 6 soups at a time and if it came down to it, id have to carry 3 cobb salads and 3 waters, and i would be going to be food places every 20 minutes or so.
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brilliant, gives restaurant owners a reason to open up shop and roleplay with customers
 
Can speak on this from two very different POV's:

As someone who runs a group, I totally get how convenient the soups are. Carrying less weight while getting SO MUCH hunger & hydration from a soup is massive (and they're cheap compared to what you'd pay to get the equivalent amount of food and drink elsewhere). When we as a group got soup and other alternatives, the other alternatives are never touched really unless it's a last resort.

As someone who owns a restaurant that CAN'T provide soups, it's absolutely brutal trying to get contracts with groups / businesses as they all just say "We get soups but cheers" or something along those lines and because of what I said above, I totally get it.

From an RP perspective, I feel like people wouldn't have a very good diet if they live on soup all of the time, so you'd want to give people a reason to branch out to other things but it comes back to the fact soup is just too convenient to pass up on. Fairly cheap, lots of nutrition, and 1 pocket space, there's almost no reason to go for any other food unless you just don't have soup handy at that time.

I think a fair solution would be to provide the restaurants that can't make soup some kind of alternative that can compete.
 
John (Collective) said:
Can speak on this from two very different POV's:

As someone who runs a group, I totally get how convenient the soups are. Carrying less weight while getting SO MUCH hunger & hydration from a soup is massive (and they're cheap compared to what you'd pay to get the equivalent amount of food and drink elsewhere). When we as a group got soup and other alternatives, the other alternatives are never touched really unless it's a last resort.

As someone who owns a restaurant that CAN'T provide soups, it's absolutely brutal trying to get contracts with groups / businesses as they all just say "We get soups but cheers" or something along those lines and because of what I said above, I totally get it.

From an RP perspective, I feel like people wouldn't have a very good diet if they live on soup all of the time, so you'd want to give people a reason to branch out to other things but it comes back to the fact soup is just too convenient to pass up on. Fairly cheap, lots of nutrition, and 1 pocket space, there's almost no reason to go for any other food unless you just don't have soup handy at that time.

I think a fair solution would be to provide the restaurants that can't make soup some kind of alternative that can compete.
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this is literally the same argument that was had with smoothies, it seems like food atm in the city is just that, a re skinned version of what we had before. it would make more sense for food to fill either food or hunger, not both in my opinion. this would create more variety in peoples E-Diets and create more roleplay because people are not calling pops and asking for 1000 soups to put in their container, which in itself is stupid.
 
Buff the other foods aswell, if i can have a shepherd's pie and it lasts longer, i would choose that over the convenience of soup
 
L1L said:
Buff the other foods aswell, if i can have a shepherd's pie and it lasts longer, i would choose that over the convenience of soup
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shepherds pie is one of those make one and it gets split down, same with pizza and cornbread and others, they seem to take the total then split it between the portions as that makes sense but soup seems to just make all the portions just as filling as the whole, hence i think its bugged somewhere
 
People are actually mix-maxing food what has this place become 💀
 
+1, fuck soup, all my homies hate soup(i am my only homie)
 
See... as a restaurant owner that does sell soups, I´m quite split on the topic.

Soups are for sure the new meta food and have replaced Banana Smoothies. BUT - it takes AGES to make them. For 1000 soups from start to finish, it takes me alone about 6 hours and yes, while I earn good on them, bringing the price down would only make the meta worse.

We have no issues selling other food items either, though instead of standing at the stove for hours, that time needs to be invested into rp to sell the other stuff. We sign up to cater for events, make deals, create "custom orders" etc. and we sell plenty of other food too.

Every restaurant being able to make soups sure would have it´s ups but also would ensure that all other food would definitely be made completely useless, because prices would go down massively on soups as well.

I think rather than looking at nerfing soups, prices need adjusting on other items that go into different foods. We have that issue with anything to do with fish dishes for example - it´s simply not worth making them, because nobody will buy them for a price that makes me my money back.

Also, I think the food places that can make soups would have no issues making deals with other restaurants to supply them at a cheap rate, just gotta approach people and roleplay a bit ;)
 
brett_bernstein said:
brilliant, gives restaurant owners a reason to open up shop and roleplay with customers
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This as well - We open up on a regular and people travel all the way up north to get food, and I´m not only talking soups... Most "random" people that come up there buy everything else but soups... They come because they see us open and we roleplay with people, I don´t often see other restaurants show as open on the app anymore, it´s a shame tbh.
 
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