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Un-ban Appeal - -ICE-BREAKER- - 06/11/17 (Unbanned)

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In-game Name
ICE BREAKER

Steam ID
76561198211130765

The date of your ban.
05/11/17

Member of the team that banned you.
SI Wolfy

Reason given for your ban.
(Poor roleplay)

The Server you initially were banned on.
Server 1

In your own words, please type why you think you were banned.
In all honestly, when I checked to see he had reported me. I assumed that this was only a revenge ban and would be dealt with as the guy writing it gave about two sentences to explain what happened and his video just had him facing away nearly the hole time. If a bit more digging into this had been taking place and you would have copied me into the report. We could have avoided all this. (Which I didn’t comment on as I felt I could get in trouble for) This would have been dealt with in a fair and honest way.

Regarding what had happened through, the guy has missed out a good amount of key information. Which he has chosen to withhold as he knows that it would show that he was in the wrong for the report. For start his friend did not get his gun out, when he seen us before we ordered them both to put their hands on their heads. If you could listen to me in the video. You would hear me say don’t run behind the truck. Which he continued to run behind the truck. He then ran back out with a ACP.45 then then started to run directly at me with his gun raised. Not valuing his life. In my option I’d say they did this as they knew they couldn’t roleplay their way out of this and decided to just play stupid and bate me into shooting him. I mean for god’s sake in real life you wouldn’t run at someone with a weapon out. Look in the video see how my feet move you can see I was worried that he was going to shoot me, I didn’t just shoot him on the spot as they seem to calm it to be. Showing that I felt he was about to shoot me. I defended myself within Roleplay.

The thing that does fuck me off is the fact that his video doesn’t show anything. All it shows is his mate bleeding out on the floor. It is disappointing to see that a community as mature as this has an attitude of guilty till proven intersect approach to or weather or not someone gets a permeate ban. I just wish we could have spoken about this.
Something else you would want to see is how they deal with the situation. After the cameras stopped rolling. Me and all my mates kept up the roleplay the hole time while the other party just complained that we shouldn’t have shot him.

After the incident, he messaged me through the in-game phone and said come to TS a admin wants to talk to you. When I joined there was no admin in the channel. I would have still joined even if a admin wasn’t present. When I joined he demanded we give him compensation even through there was no reason for it to be given. He said that we shouldn’t have shoot his friend and claimed it was low quality RP. But, I would like to counter this by saying that his friend started running at me with his gun raised and I defended myself.

Why should we unban you ?
I’m not sure how to respond to this question apart from I am starting to take real care in our community and me and my friends was planing on creating a little post about how we think the server could do to make the roleplay even better as I do rather enjoy playing on it and want to avoid getting banned in the future. I have looked on the rule page and could not find the exact rule I was banned for. However poor RP I would consider say robbing someone but once there tied up not saying a word to them. However, I do rather enjoy roleplay and will never avoid it. I take prided in acting in game and do take great offense when people label me as a bad role-player.

Please confirm this unban request is for you.
Yes

I have read and understand the unban appeal process
Yes

Please confirm you understand there is no timeframe for your appeal.
Yes

Before you submit this form please confirm you have fully read the rules click here
Yes

 
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Saying "put your hands up, put your hands up,put your hands up" kill player - Does not suffice as quality roleplay.  You can not kill someone for that. The only interaction you had with the player was you saying "Put your hands up".

(2.2) Random Deathmatch (also known as RDM) - Shooting at someone without engaging in any form of quality role play (eg. Giving enough time for them to comply with your order. Count downs are not considered quality roleplay, please at least attempt to create an interesting roleplay story before considering shooting.) is considered RDM. (Punishment is a ban).

Please Read the above rule, do you think you provided Quality Roleplay?

decided to just play stupid and bate me into shooting him.
If he was honestly being stupid and baiting you. Then you where honestly just as stupid breaking a simple, well known rule.

This is your unban appeal, this is not a place to complain about how you where apparently miss treated by the staff team, if you have an issue with how you where dealt with please contact the appropriate  people. Not complain about it in your appeal.

I would like you to re conduct yourself and answer these questions

Do you think you RDM'd the player?

Do you understand the RDM Rule?

Do you understand what quality roleplay is?

 
No, I didn't RDM the player as he went behind the truck and came back out with a gun. So his intention was to uses it. If he stayed behind the truck to defend himself. I would have told him to come out with his hands up and talked to him. But he just ran around the car and came out with a gun and started to run at me. He had his gun raised and was clearly going to try and fight back. 

Yes, I do understand what the RDM rule is.

I understand the idea of what high quality roleplay is. I think a bit more guidance wouldn't go a miss. Which would help newer players like myself understand what you mean. 

I did not say I was miss treated by staff. What I was doing however was going through my ban and explaining why I think my ban was unjust. 

I would appreciate it if you would not call me stupid. As if I was to call you exactly that, then you would probable ban me or such. So, lets keep this fair and civil agreed? 

 
Ill reiterate myself

(2.2) Random Deathmatch (also known as RDM) - Shooting at someone without engaging in any form of quality role play (eg. Giving enough time for them to comply with your order. Count downs are not considered quality roleplay, please at least attempt to create an interesting roleplay story before considering shooting.) is considered RDM. (Punishment is a ban).

Please Read the above rule, do you think you provided Quality Roleplay?
To kill some one and not break rule 2.2 you must do following (These are just the basics)

  1. Provide Quality roleplay
  2. Give them enough time to comply with your order
  3. Attempt to create an interesting scenario
The main point I am trying to get you to understand is quality 

Did you provide sufficient rolepay to kill the player? Yes or no

This is not the first time you have been banned for a similar situation



In the above you received this warning from Info

" Let this be a harsh verbal warning towards you, dont show this type of behavior again otherwise your stay around here will come to a quick end. "

I would appreciate it if you would not call me stupid. As if I was to call you exactly that, then you would probable ban me or such.
What I said was

If he was honestly being stupid and baiting you. Then you where honestly just as stupid breaking a simple, well known rule.
I completely stand by my point, you where stupid in that situation leading you to break a well known, simple rule. Just because I state how you acted in a situation as "stupid" doesn't mean I am calling you stupid.

As if I was to call you exactly that, then you would probable ban me or such
Please if I act stupid in a situation and its credible I personally Invite you to call me stupid. I would not ban you for that, please don't assume i would.

Ive never met you ingame or out game, I dont know who you are and I have never had any interaction with you. I am being civil and ill remain being civil.

 
This has got rather off topic, the points in what I was trying to say is that 

Provide quality roleplay, I would be happy to but the guy just ran behind the hemet. I didn't get a chance to roleplay properly with them as one ran at me with a gun. 

I would say a gave him plenty of time to comply with my order. Enough time to run around a hemtt id say. Also I was telling him the hole time my order. Which he choses to ignore.

Regarding the roleplay reason, How could I explain it when he ran at me with a gun?

 
Give this a read if you haven't done so already. 

Would you say shouting hands up, hands up, hands up constitutes quality roleplay? It doesn't matter if he pulls out a gun or a balloon animal, you still have to give high quality roleplay before you can kill him.

So let's give you another chance. Do you think what you did here constitutes high quality roleplay? What would you have done differently? 

 
I would have not have shoot him at first. I would have warned him that if he didn't put his gun away, we would knock him out and restrain him. 

Question

Would he been able to shoot me through?

Does this mean if someone comes up to you and says before anything elses. Just "put your hands up you can report them"?

@CC Aiden @TCK Matt

 
We're not here to discuss when you can report someone else we're here to work out if we want to let you back onto the server, asking how to get people banned probably isn't a great questions to ask. Read the post I linked previously and work it out.

I would have not have shoot him at first. I would have warned him that if he didn't put his gun away, we would knock him out and restrain him. 
Give me more details on what you would say if you had the chances to re-live this scenario because after your response I'm really not certain you understand the rule's you have broken.

 
But, i'm asking a question about how the rules work to understand better. Me getting banned should be about learning about how the server works and learning what people can and can't do. You saying we are not here to discuss it is wrong.

My RP story.

I would follow the truck try and get them to pull over, when they do I would begin to talk to them ask they what they are doing, whats in the truck and so on. If it was worth a lot of money I would ask them to but there hands behind my back as me and my gang are planning on robbing a bank and need money to do this. I would then leave them cuffed in a field. 

 
I would have not have shoot him at first. I would have warned him that if he didn't put his gun away, we would knock him out and restrain him. 

Question

Would he been able to shoot me through?

Does this mean if someone comes up to you and says before anything elses. Just "put your hands up you can report them"?

@CC Aiden @TCK Matt

 Should answer your query.

I am going to give you your FINAL chance. If you fuck it up, that's on you.

Unbanned.

 
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