Report a player - Mickey Woodruff and Luke Woodruff - GTA RP

[Neve]

Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Neve Lux
Reported Players: Mickey Woodruff and Luke Woodruff
Date: Jul 9, 2025
Time: 23:00
What best describes this incident: This report concerns multiple breaches of server rules by Mickey and Luke Woodruff during an RP scenario involving The Martins. The events span several interactions and resulted in us raising concerns regarding metagaming, failure to value life, and breaches of NLR. Rule breaking: (G3.1) OOC Information / Metagaming - (G4.3) New Life Rule (NLR) - (G2.4) Value of Life (VoL)
Please (in detail) describe the incident:

Session IDs:
Mickey Woodruff: 303
Luke Woodruff: 451

Context & RP Setup
There has been ongoing RP tension between The Martins and Mickey Woodruff for approximately a week. During this period, Neve (a member of The Martins) received IC information that Mickey was working with CID to gather and provide evidence against the gang. The information indicated that evidence had already been submitted and more was being collected to support potential charges.

After internal discussions among The Martins’ leadership, a group decision was made to put an end to this storyline by kidnapping and killing Mickey. The goal was not only to disrupt his ability to continue feeding information to CID, but also to end the ongoing feud, which was starting to feel repetitive and drawn out for all parties involved.

The group agreed that the only realistic and RP-consistent way to fully close this chapter was to eliminate Mickey’s character, thereby wiping the slate clean and allowing for new directions in future storylines. This was intended to de-escalate the drama, not escalate it.

To maintain realism and separation from the gang, The Martins hired a third-party group to kidnap Mickey and deliver him to an undisclosed location. The plan was carefully executed to ensure no outside interference and to preserve immersion and fairness within the RP world.


1. Kidnapping & Death of Mickey - 22:50 PM
During the kidnapping setup, both Mickey and his brother Luke Woodruff were present at the scene. Although the plan was to abduct only Mickey, both were initially picked up by the hired third-party group.

The kidnappers drove them both to a location and asked them to both surrender, Luke was shot (22:55 PM) and left incapacitated at the pickup location. Before leaving, his phone and radio were taken by the kidnappers to prevent any communication or metagaming concerns.

Mickey was then transported to an isolated pickup location — under the canals near the casino — (23:00 PM) and ultimately taken to Humane Labs by the Martins, where The Martins executed him and dumped his body in the water. (23:20 PM) No IC trail or radio communication was left behind to reveal this location.

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There are clips supported of all the above RP from both the kidnapping side - and us dumping his body at Humane Labs.


2. Suspicious Reappearance of Luke – Potential Metagaming between both Mickey Woodruff and Luke Woodruff
As The Martins were leaving the Humane Labs, they received a phone text from Gus that another vehicle was seen approaching. They returned to find Luke diving into the same area — seemingly to recover Mickey. (23:25PM)

This raised major concerns, as:

No one in RP had informed Luke of Mickey’s location.

We had checked the area to ensure no one else was watching/following.

Mickey had been dumped and left with no IC trail.

Luke claimed in QE chat it was a "random drive" after being seen by NHS – a highly unlikely coincidence.

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We believe this constitutes Metagaming (G3.1).


3. Luke’s Failure to Value Life
There were multiple incidents where Luke Woodruff failed to show proper value for his life, breaching (G2.4) Value of Life.

First NVL Incident – During Kidnapping:
When Mickey and Luke were initially picked up by the hired third-party group, a firearm was pointed directly at Luke’s head during the interaction. Despite being outnumbered, outgunned, and with no realistic chance of escape, Luke began punching one of the armed kidnappers rather than complying. This was completely unrealistic and a clear breach of the Value of Life rule.

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Second NVL Incident – At Humane Labs:
Later, after Mickey had been executed and dumped at Humane Labs, The Martins encountered Luke driving into the same area. When confronted and told to stop, Luke ignored repeated commands, attempted to flee in his vehicle, and had his tires shot out.

Once his vehicle was disabled, he exited and continued to run on foot, despite multiple chances being given for him to surrender. He was severely outnumbered and at clear risk, yet still refused to comply. This again demonstrates a blatant disregard for his character’s life.

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These repeated failures to realistically value his life significantly damaged the integrity of the RP and violated one of the core principles of serious RP scenarios.


4. Breach of New Life Rule (NLR)
After both Mickey and Luke were confirmed dead, The Martins - along with Gustavo Mendes - returned to the city. Shortly after, they encountered a black Jeep that began ramming into them without any RP initiation or justification. (Roughly between 12-1am)

This vehicle was later identified as being driven by Luke with Mickey being a passenger, who were clearly continuing the previous feud, despite both characters having been killed and the storyline intentionally concluded.

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This not only escalated the conflict unnecessarily, but also directly violated (G4.3) New Life Rule (NLR), which states that any feuds or hostilities must end after death.


5. OOC Interaction in QE Room
After the events, Neve and Gustavo Mendes requested both Mickey and Luke join the QE room to discuss the situation OOC.

We raised concerns about potential metagaming, specifically regarding how Luke located Mickey at Humane Labs without any IC information.

During the conversation, I (Neve) asked Luke directly, twice, what happened after he was initially shot. Specifically:

Did someone find him? // Was he picked up by NHS? // How did he recover and end up at Humane Labs?

I was simply trying to gain clarity and context around the RP timeline, in good faith.

Despite this, Luke refused to answer both times, even with staff present, and instead responded sarcastically with:

"Find out in RP." to which he then, after the 3rd time being ask, explained that he was found by NHS.

This response was dismissive and uncooperative, especially given that the discussion was in an OOC setting with staff mediation, specifically to resolve concerns about broken rules.

Due to the lack of productive conversation, we requested staff assistance.

Staff members Sammy and Leroy joined the session, but were unable to take immediate action. Which has now led to this report.

All accusations made within this report are fully supported by in-game footage. We have provided a range of clips covering the situation from multiple perspectives, including:

The third-party kidnapping team

Neve’s POV

Gustavo Mendes' POV

If any part of the report requires clarification or if further explanation is needed, I am more than happy to assist. Please feel free to reach out at any time.

Thank you for taking the time to review this situation.
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[Mason Edge]

@mickey woodruff this report is against you if you want to explain the situation and defend yourself before it's actioned. Can't find your friend's forum account if you want to nudge him to look at this too before it's actioned.

 

[mickey woodruff]

@mickey woodruff this report is against you if you want to explain the situation and defend yourself before it's actioned. Can't find your friend's forum account if you want to nudge him to look at this too before it's actioned.

Let me make one thing absolutely clear I have nothing further to say on this matter beyond what I’ve already said directly to staff. Since 2022, I have never once been pulled into a situation by a normal, level-headed individual. Every time, without fail, it's someone behaving like a gangster or a bully who doesn’t get their way and decides to run crying to staff. It’s childish. It’s embarrassing. And it’s a waste of time.


As for Luke he’s a grown man. He has parents of his own. I don’t babysit people, and I won’t be “nudging” anyone on staff’s behalf. That’s your job, not mine. I won’t be reaching out to him, nor should I be expected to.


I’ve read the report. Frankly, most of it doesn’t even mention my name directly, and the parts that do are vague at best. Regarding the so-called “meta gaming” accusation again, you have no evidence. Coincidences happen. People win the lottery every day. You’ve provided nothing but speculation and hearsay. In any real-world situation courtroom or otherwise this would be thrown out immediately due to lack of actual proof. Accusations without solid evidence mean nothing.....


If Luke decided to handle the situation the way he did, that’s on him, not me. That’s his prerogative. Don’t try to twist this into a “Mickey Woodruff” issue when it’s clearly not.


Now, as for the behavior during that call: yes, some of it was childish but again, that wasn’t coming from me. As I’ve said before, when staff were present, I kept my composure. I’m not here to lick boots or stroke egos just because someone thinks they’ve got power. I don’t care who you are I don’t operate on fear or intimidation. That’s not how I move.


You’re not getting an apology from me. Not now, not ever. I won’t apologize for things I haven’t done. I won’t apologize to people who come at me with disrespect and expect me to fold. I conduct myself the way any reasonable adult would in the real world firm, calm, and direct. If that rattles people, that’s on them, not me.


We can agree to disagree. That’s where I’m leaving this. I’ve been part of this community for a long time, and if I was truly the toxic or disruptive person people are trying to paint me as, I wouldn’t have lasted this long.


This is my final word on the matter. You can like it or not but I stand by it, and I stand by how I’ve carried myself.


Mickey Woodruff

 

[Mason Edge]

As for Luke he’s a grown man. He has parents of his own. I don’t babysit people, and I won’t be “nudging” anyone on staff’s behalf. That’s your job, not mine. I won’t be reaching out to him, nor should I be expected to.

No one is forcing you to nudge him and no one is expecting you to. I've mentioned I can't find his forums account but if that's your stance this report will be actioned without him being able to reply.

 

[mickey woodruff]

No one is forcing you to nudge him and no one is expecting you to. I've mentioned I can't find his forums account but if that's your stance this report will be actioned without him being able to reply.

Let me stop you right there...


You mentioned “Can’t find your friend’s forum account if you want to nudge him.” Let’s be very clear that is not my responsibility. I don’t babysit grown men. If someone is involved in a situation serious enough to warrant staff action, it’s their job to show up and speak for themselves not mine.


Trying to pass the weight of another man’s accountability onto me is not only unfair, it’s absurd. I will not chase down someone else over a report that doesn’t even concern me beyond vague accusations and speculation. If you can’t find his account, that’s a staff-side issue not a me issue. I’m only here to speak on my own actions, my own conduct, and my own name.


I won’t be drawn into someone else’s mess. I’m not here to vouch, represent, or defend someone who hasn’t shown up. That’s not how I operate. I’ve already made my stance clear, and I’m not bending to suggestion, implication, or soft pressure.


If this report is being actioned, then action it based on my involvement only and make sure that distinction is understood. I’m not going to be dragged into a wider net to cover for someone else’s silence. This is about Mickey Woodruff, not whoever you can’t get hold of. Keep the focus where it belongs.


This is the last time I’ll say it: I take responsibility for myself, and no one else. Don’t talk to me about another man’s problems talk to him, if he chooses to show up.....

 

[G.Mendes]

Let me make one thing absolutely clear I have nothing further to say on this matter beyond what I’ve already said directly to staff. Since 2022, I have never once been pulled into a situation by a normal, level-headed individual. Every time, without fail, it's someone behaving like a gangster or a bully who doesn’t get their way and decides to run crying to staff. It’s childish. It’s embarrassing. And it’s a waste of time.


As for Luke he’s a grown man. He has parents of his own. I don’t babysit people, and I won’t be “nudging” anyone on staff’s behalf. That’s your job, not mine. I won’t be reaching out to him, nor should I be expected to.


I’ve read the report. Frankly, most of it doesn’t even mention my name directly, and the parts that do are vague at best. Regarding the so-called “meta gaming” accusation again, you have no evidence. Coincidences happen. People win the lottery every day. You’ve provided nothing but speculation and hearsay. In any real-world situation courtroom or otherwise this would be thrown out immediately due to lack of actual proof. Accusations without solid evidence mean nothing.....


If Luke decided to handle the situation the way he did, that’s on him, not me. That’s his prerogative. Don’t try to twist this into a “Mickey Woodruff” issue when it’s clearly not.


Now, as for the behavior during that call: yes, some of it was childish but again, that wasn’t coming from me. As I’ve said before, when staff were present, I kept my composure. I’m not here to lick boots or stroke egos just because someone thinks they’ve got power. I don’t care who you are I don’t operate on fear or intimidation. That’s not how I move.


You’re not getting an apology from me. Not now, not ever. I won’t apologize for things I haven’t done. I won’t apologize to people who come at me with disrespect and expect me to fold. I conduct myself the way any reasonable adult would in the real world firm, calm, and direct. If that rattles people, that’s on them, not me.


We can agree to disagree. That’s where I’m leaving this. I’ve been part of this community for a long time, and if I was truly the toxic or disruptive person people are trying to paint me as, I wouldn’t have lasted this long.


This is my final word on the matter. You can like it or not but I stand by it, and I stand by how I’ve carried myself.


Mickey Woodruff

“Don’t try to twist this into a “Mickey Woodruff” issue when it’s clearly not.”

Just one small thing, Are you aware that metagaming takes 2 people for it to work. Otherwise there no way Luke would have known you were there.

We don’t have hard proof evidence of yourself for the supposed Meta but Luke’s actions in city shows that he was tipped of some sort of information to act the way he did.

Excuses like “Im just driving past humane labs when he was just outside it is a poor excuse.

Everything is also convenient for yourself with no footage from Luke, Luke magically making his way to Humane labs directly after getting up from his treatment.


That’s me for now.

 

[Sammy]

Alrighty, I will put a stopper in here now so Mason can deal with this appropriately without having to go back and forth or read 50 replies that simply do not add anything of value to this report.

Quite frankly, the attitude in here is not needed and will stop now - otherwise further action will be taken, that goes for everyone involved and I hope I have made myself clear.

 

[mickey woodruff]

“Don’t try to twist this into a “Mickey Woodruff” issue when it’s clearly not.”

Just one small thing, Are you aware that metagaming takes 2 people for it to work. Otherwise there no way Luke would know you were there.

We don’t have hard proof evidence of yourself for the supposed Meta but Luke’s actions in city shows that he was tipped of some sort of information to act the way he did.

Excuses like “Im just driving past humane labs when he was just outside it is a poor excuse.

Everything is also convenient for yourself with no footage from Luke, Luke magically making his way to Humane labs directly after getting up from his treatment.


That’s me for now.

Here’s your revised, dominant, no-nonsense response that directly addresses the accusation, reinforces your position, and shuts down any attempt to shift blame or responsibility onto you:

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Once again, you're circling around the same baseless accusation with no actual proof just speculation and guesswork. Let me make it crystal clear, one last time:


This is not a Mickey Woodruff issue.
You're trying to pin the actions of another man Luke on me, without a single piece of hard evidence that ties me to any metagaming. You’ve admitted yourself: "we don’t have hard proof evidence of yourself." That should be the end of it.


You say metagaming takes two? Fine then prove it.
Where's the footage? The comms? The direct link between me and his actions? You don't have it and without it, your accusation means nothing. You’re operating on theory, not fact. And theory doesn’t get convictions not in the real world, and it shouldn’t here either.


As for your comments about the "convenience" of the situation that’s not evidence. That’s narrative-building, not proof. You're speculating because Luke made a move you didn’t expect, and now you’re retroactively trying to tie me into it without actually having anything solid to stand on. That’s weak......


Let me make one more thing perfectly clear I am not responsible for another man’s mouth, movements, or mistakes.
I'm not Luke's handler. I don’t speak for him. I don’t answer for him. If you’ve got a problem with Luke’s actions, then you should be speaking to Luke not trying to drag my name into it because he’s unavailable. That’s not how this works.


You keep saying I should be “nudging” him or getting involved on his behalf I said no and I meant it. If he chooses not to show up or speak for himself, that’s on him, not me. Stop asking me to fix someone else’s mess.


So let’s wrap this up:

• No hard evidence = no case.
• Speculation = not my problem.
• Luke’s silence = not my responsibility.

You're not going to twist this into something it’s not.
I know how I conduct myself. I don't fold under pressure, and I don’t take accountability for what others do. If there's nothing solid to bring forward, then this conversation is over.

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[mickey woodruff]

Alrighty, I will put a stopper in here now so Mason can deal with this appropriately without having to go back and forth or read 50 replies that simply do not add anything of value to this report.

Quite frankly, the attitude in here is not needed and will stop now - otherwise further action will be taken, that goes for everyone involved and I hope I have made myself clear.

Let’s be absolutely clear I’m speaking now not as a character, but as a real person. I’m not hiding behind an RP name, and I’m not playing games. If you’re going to address me with real-world consequences or implications, then understand you’re dealing with me as a real adult and I will respond in kind.


I don’t take orders from server staff outside of what’s fair within server rules. I don’t respond well to being spoken down to, controlled, or cornered into silence under threat. I’ve been respectful enough to reply and clarify my position without swearing, insulting, or losing my composure but I’m not going to be dictated to, especially when I’ve done nothing wrong.


If my attitude rubs the wrong way, maybe it’s because I don’t fold or bow down to people coming at me with an inflated sense of authority. That kind of "lick my boots or else" energy doesn’t work with me never has, never will.


We’re all here to enjoy a game. When it turns into real-world power-tripping, that's when people start losing interest and respect for the system. So let’s keep it real: I’ve said my piece. I’ve defended my name. I’ve drawn the line.


I won’t be baited.
I won’t be controlled.
And I definitely won’t be apologizing for standing firm.


If that’s “an attitude,” then so be it I call it having a backbone.

 

[Sammy]

@mickey woodruff

That is absolutely fine. Within the server rules it states as per C6.1 that "Any decision the staff team make is final."

Here is the decision: This stops now. I don´t want to see further, unhelpful replies from either side, until Mason asks for you to comment on something. That should be adequately enough within server rules for you to listen.

 

[mickey woodruff]

@mickey woodruff

That is absolutely fine. Within the server rules it states as per C6.1 that "Any decision the staff team make is final."

Here is the decision: This stops now. I don´t want to see further, unhelpful replies from either side, until Mason asks for you to comment on something. That should be adequately enough within server rules for you to listen

you need me contact me... think we are done here

 

[Mason Edge]

Hello @Neve thank you for taking the time to write this report.

There is a lot take in so I'll write a quick summary of what occured:

• Mickey and Luke was grabbed from Vespucci Blvd by a third-party group on behalf of the Martains.
• Prior to taking them to The Martins Luke decides to not value their life despite being in a very clear disadvantage and attacking the kidnappers. (At this point Luke respawns early without any NHS or Local treatment)
• Mickey is taken underground and handed over to The Martains by the third party group and taken over to Humane Labs (Mickey respawns early and dies ending this storyline and the fued with The Martins)
• Luke appears outside Humane Labs approximately 20 - 25 minutes after he respawns and chose to run therefore dying again and respawning without NHS or local treatment.
• Just under an hour after this entire situation Luke and Mickey started ramming a vehicle of a group involved without any roleplay and they both died and respawned as a result of this.

(G4.3) When you respawn and NLR applies
Luke respawned twice during this entire scenario and Mickey respawned once when killed off at Humane Labs. This means that your character does not remember any of the previous roleplay situation and any fued your characters had with the killer(s) is ended. An hour after the situation there was no reason to go ramming the group's vehicle and continuing the fued.

Additionally Mickey continued this fued by dumping a Solicitor due to "CID Betraying me" and making direct references to The Martins and being an informant in clear breach of NLR, which he has already been giving a ban for.

(G3.1) OOC Information
Not long after Luke respawned he was seen outside Humane labs and when questioned in-character said he was just going on a drive. Humane labs has a road that cuts off once you get to the building and driving there conveniently where the dumping is taking place is absurd and makes no sense. It may be mentioned that there is no proof it was metagamed however in QE when questioned OOC he said that he was taken to the NHS and treated, which is a lie as he respawned 15 minutes after getting shot. If it was a lucky coincidence and he stumbled upon the location his friend was getting executed they wouldn't need to lie in QE about it.

Due to the above with the lies in QE and driving to Humane labs I'll be issuing a ban on Mickey and Luke for OOC Information as there is a source he got this information from, which you can explain in an appeal.

Even if it was only Luke that Metagamed @mickey woodruff you still defended him in QE and reiterated his story when questioned by staff. Luke didn't speak for a large chunk of the QE with you basically speaking on his behalf and defending the claims of metagaming despite after further digging finding out Luke lied in QE. Staff there said the story seemed rehearsed. This can also be explained in an appeal.

Regarding the so-called “meta gaming” accusation again, you have no evidence. Coincidences happen. People win the lottery every day. You’ve provided nothing but speculation and hearsay. In any real-world situation courtroom or otherwise this would be thrown out immediately due to lack of actual proof. Accusations without solid evidence mean nothing.....

You are correct in saying "In any real-world situation courtroom or otherwise this would be thrown out immediately due to lack of actual proof. Accusations without solid evidence mean nothing.....", unfortunately for you, this is not a court room. This is our server and none of us have a right or the entitlement to be here. We can absolutely make the decision to shut the door on you whenever we feel that you are being dishonest or disruptive for our community.


Additionally @mickey woodruff the attitude you've displayed to players and staff stinks. No one is wanting you to lick their boots and stroke their ego but want to have a civil conversation about concerns they have about potential rule breaks. If you choose to appeal this ban I'd suggest taking a look at yourself and working on that attitude because it's not something we want here.


Both players were spoken to by staff in QE and was given the chance to come clean and it was stated to them by staff should they in fact be found to have lied to Sammy and Leroy instead of owning up, once staff digs deeper into this issue, they will be getting no leniency from Staff.


Report Approved

Char ID: 73743
Rule Breaks: G4.3, G3.1
Action: Permanent Ban

Char ID: 73746
Rules Breaks: G4.3, G3.1, G2.4
Action: Permanent Ban