Report a player - Patraig Gavin / ID: 357 (I think) - GTA RP

[Monty.]

Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Jonjo Montel
Reported Players: Patraig Gavin / ID: 357 (I think)
Date: Dec 28, 2025
Time: 01:30
What best describes this incident: (G2.4) Value of Life + (G1.5) Powergaming
Please (in detail) describe the incident: Myself and the rest of Cerberus MC were attempting to kidnap PC Cummings and have some fun with him as he is funny to roleplay with. We ended up in a shootout with police and during this time Mick Dundan helped some of our members escape. We were then all collected, taken to Pillbox and treated, and then taken to MRPD to get sentenced. Whilst in the cells around 4 Cerberus members pushed into the PD to come save us, where they used the G6 officer there to take us out of the cells. We were getting the G6 and Police to all drop their guns and anything they could use against us (phones, radios, all weapons etc) to which we were planning to have one of the Police escort us out being used as a hostage. Patraig pointed out that he needed to eat, to which we got a G6 to cut him out of zip ties to eat. Once out of zip ties Patraig was given multiple commands to drop his guns, the guns he had taken from us, and anything belonging to myself. He dropped things one by one trying to waste time, and when given about 10-12 commands to raise his hands so I could check, he waffled on some excuses to try and waste even more time. Once he finally complied I told him to drop his guns he had failed to drop, to which he then wasted EVEN MORE time dropping random things.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt as I could have shot him for not complying multiple times as we had no plans of shooting feds, just getting our members out of PD and retrieving our stuff. He then eventually dropped his guns and I then took him to another member (Mickey McFinnigan) where we needed him to unlock doors to retrieve another one of our members. He then kept itching towards the door to which he was told if he went through the door he would be shot, we took him back through another door to which whilst he had an Assault Rifle and Pump Shotgun pointed at him, he then decided it would be okay to run through the door and lock it. I then ran through the door before it locked and tried to pursue him to which he ran up the stairs and retrieved another Assault Rifle. This ended up with Cerberus killing every officer within the PD to which it ended up in a 1v1 gunfight in the cells with myself and Patraig which he eventually ended up getting the upper hand and downing me. (This was luckily was made up by Mick Dundan who kept trying to set us free)
This interaction with Patraig changed the entire outcome of the scenario. The roleplay could have continued with us escaping as that was the plan. to which further investigations, raids, and RP with Police whilst out and about could have happened. But it was cut short due to his rule break.

I took Patraig to QE after the situation where staff was present, to which I mentioned from my side how it was NVL to which his response was (I'm just a cunt, have you known me to be any different? I'm the type of person to drop 1 PB at a time when I'm getting robbed.)
I can understand wanting to long out being robbed for things, but basically admitting NVL because he wanted to win the situation secured my opinion to report it. I have had lots of interactions with Police having no value of life, pressing their panic buttons with multiple guns pointed at them and this one has won the medal for all of them.

I believe this to be a very hard win mentality and very poor from himself as someone who has been in the server a very long time, and a cop on the server for long too, as even though he was refusing I gave him multiple chances to which I could have just shot him. I believe him not complying multiple times when told to do things is a very hard no value of life which ruined the situation with us completely.

I also believe him using the door to run through and lock was more NVL and could be considered Power gaming as he was using the door to run through knowing we couldn't have unlocked it due to the lack of police on the server (We knew this prior trying to do a bank)
Link(s) To Any Evidence: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/lNp9lTIIc_Z77Qjxn?invite=cr-MSxGTWUsMjU2MjQ4MTU5&v=0

 

[Double]

Well sorry to see that it has come to this Monty thought we had talked this out last night but it look like we haven’t after QE. I have told anyone last night and explain why I did want I did I have nothing to add to this if staff have any questions please ask away

Thank thanks patraig Gavin (306)

 

[JackJohnson]

@Double This report will be actioned soon, take the chance and give your side of the story if you want, otherwise we will just continue without it.

 

[Double]

From my perspective, the situation began during a Process shootout just behind MRPD shootout. Mick had already saved the individuals involved earlier. While we suspected Mick might do something, we had no proof at the time.


When Mick allowed them into the cells, four of them rushed in and began forcing people to the ground. Jesse and I were ordered to drop our rifle ammunition. At that moment, I had no one had a weapon aimed at me, so I did not immediately drop anything. I raised my hands and was placed into zip ties.


Afterward, they asked if I needed food or drink. I received my food and drink, and then they demanded that I drop the rest of my belongings on the floor. Naturally, I resisted slightly not to stall excessively or ruin the scenario, but to avoid immediately giving up everything and letting them escape again. Eventually, I did drop everything they asked for. I took my time doing so because negotiations were actively happening.


During this time, they had already shot a police officer near the interview rooms. You can hear the gunfight occurring in the clip, even if it isn’t fully visible. As I moved through the area, I walked past the dead body of one of my fellow officers, and at that point I believed this might be my only chance to escape without being shot. https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/lNmnJ002wxQykQVVE?invite=cr-MSxySGwsNDYzMDAxMTU&v=74


IF they want to negotiate why did the just start shooting and keep pushing out and getting killed as well


When we reached the doors, they instructed us to open the second set of doors, which I did, allowing them access to the evidence locker and screening room. Once inside, they began communicating with other officers and demanded their person back. However, that individual had already been shot by police after attempting to engage officers again.


From how everything unfolded, it appeared clear to me that their intent was to kill anyone in their way. Their goal seemed to be to buy time to escape while stripping every officer of their equipment.


As they were walking back, I noticed that both doors had closed and I had not yet re-entered. I took that opportunity, locked the door, and they fired through it but missed. I ran upstairs, rearmed myself, and when I came back down, I witnessed Mickey McFinnigan shooting two officers in the face with a shotgun. At that point, I engaged and took them out.


This is what I personally observed. I had no knowledge that there were not enough officers online to lockpick the doors. To my understanding, I had previously given Monty lockpicks, but he never used them. I also had two zip ties on me, which I had given to Mickey earlier. They could have zip-tied me again to make things easier for themselves, but they chose not to.


I saw an opportunity and took it. I understand I may have come across as rash or overly keen when I mentioned dropping one bullet at a time. In reality, I would have dropped everything, but due to my established relationship with these characters, I chose to play it out slightly for roleplay purposes and to keep the situation engaging. Unfortunately, that seems to have been taken the wrong way.


I believed this issue had already been resolved in QE, but there was no further communication afterward. Regardless, this is exactly how the situation appeared from my point of view and why I acted the way I did.


My POV for the run-


https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/lNmyMMShrvRFRsV0V?invite=cr-MSxCd08sNDYzMDAxMTU&v=67

sorry for the wait
Many thanks
Double

 

[Monty.]

From my perspective, the situation began during a Process shootout just behind MRPD shootout. Mick had already saved the individuals involved earlier. While we suspected Mick might do something, we had no proof at the time.


When Mick allowed them into the cells, four of them rushed in and began forcing people to the ground. Jesse and I were ordered to drop our rifle ammunition. At that moment, I had no one had a weapon aimed at me, so I did not immediately drop anything. I raised my hands and was placed into zip ties.


Afterward, they asked if I needed food or drink. I received my food and drink, and then they demanded that I drop the rest of my belongings on the floor. Naturally, I resisted slightly not to stall excessively or ruin the scenario, but to avoid immediately giving up everything and letting them escape again. Eventually, I did drop everything they asked for. I took my time doing so because negotiations were actively happening.


During this time, they had already shot a police officer near the interview rooms. You can hear the gunfight occurring in the clip, even if it isn’t fully visible. As I moved through the area, I walked past the dead body of one of my fellow officers, and at that point I believed this might be my only chance to escape without being shot. https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/lNmnJ002wxQykQVVE?invite=cr-MSxySGwsNDYzMDAxMTU&v=74


IF they want to negotiate why did the just start shooting and keep pushing out and getting killed as well

I'll just reply to each of these parts to give a bit of a run down.

''Jesse and I were ordered to drop our rifle ammunition. At that moment, I had no one had a weapon aimed at me, so I did not immediately drop anything. I raised my hands and was placed into zip ties.''

You had multiple guns pointed at you at that moment, probably around 2-3. If you need me to add the clip from Mickeys POV I'm sure I can get that.

''During this time, they had already shot a police officer near the interview rooms.''

The officer shot that you are talking about was the one in the clip who you can see peaking open the door with his gun (bit of an exploit btw) and then killing one of my members. We had no intentions of killing any of you until police opened fire, the plan was to get in and get the members out.

''IF they want to negotiate why did the just start shooting and keep pushing out and getting killed as well''

We tried negotiating multiple times with your officers to which the moment the police ran through the door shooting, it was clear to us that negotiations had went out the window. But we still gave you all the chance to live, hence why you were all on the floor sat down.

From how everything unfolded, it appeared clear to me that their intent was to kill anyone in their way. Their goal seemed to be to buy time to escape while stripping every officer of their equipment.


As they were walking back, I noticed that both doors had closed and I had not yet re-entered. I took that opportunity, locked the door, and they fired through it but missed. I ran upstairs, rearmed myself, and when I came back down, I witnessed Mickey McFinnigan shooting two officers in the face with a shotgun. At that point, I engaged and took them out.


This is what I personally observed. I had no knowledge that there were not enough officers online to lockpick the doors. To my understanding, I had previously given Monty lockpicks, but he never used them. I also had two zip ties on me, which I had given to Mickey earlier. They could have zip-tied me again to make things easier for themselves, but they chose not to.


I saw an opportunity and took it. I understand I may have come across as rash or overly keen when I mentioned dropping one bullet at a time. In reality, I would have dropped everything, but due to my established relationship with these characters, I chose to play it out slightly for roleplay purposes and to keep the situation engaging. Unfortunately, that seems to have been taken the wrong way.

''From how everything unfolded, it appeared clear to me that their intent was to kill anyone in their way. Their goal seemed to be to buy time to escape while stripping every officer of their equipment.''

It was not our intent to kill everyone in our way, hence why I was so lenient with you when you refused to raise your hands after being given the command about 11 times. Like I said previously the plan was to get in, get the boys, get out.

''They could have zip-tied me again to make things easier for themselves, but they chose not to.''

This I can agree with but in the midst of all the chaos we didn't think to zip tie you as you had nothing on you that could harm us, and we couldn't get you to unlock doors in zip ties.


From my perspective, you were given multiple orders and I was very lenient with you which shows our intent was NOT to kill everyone, or else we would have done it from the get go. You tried to stall time dropping random items instead of dropping what I told you to drop, just so that you could try and wait for backup or try yourself to get a win. We overheard multiple times of the Police and G6 planning some sort of revolution uprising to try and overthrow us, which is why you all got shot in the end.

I understand you may have took a 'chance' to escape but that doesn't mean you can just break a rule when you have multiple guns pointed at you. At the end of the day it's the same fed mentality of don't give in to what crims want and just NVL because its easier. Which in case ruins the entire scenario. If you had not had NVL'd and stayed with us, we would've took you back in, sat you down and left with all of your lives still living. But your decision to not value 2 guns in your face and run through a door and lock it, made us do what we had to do, which was kill everyone in sight, as we could no longer give you any leniency.

It's a shame as me and the boys spoke about it after and had a few ideas of what we could have done to get out with our lives and your own. I'll not be responding any further and I'll leave this in staffs hands.

Thank you,

Montavious III

 

[JackJohnson]

Hello,

I've read through the replies and watched the available video - honestly I think the situation here is fairly clear. @Double you were issued clear commands several times and chose to mess around and not comply. Whether that was as stated to "be a cunt" or delay them doesn't really matter. The Police had clearly been overpowered already and were sat in a massive disadvantage with Cerberus holding a clear upper hand on them within this situation.
If you read the in-depth explanation for NVL it states "For example a player, in a locked room with 2 assault rifles trained on them, is at far more of a disadvantage than a player standing atop a low bridge, with 5 assault rifles trained on them. The player in a locked room has less of a chance of escape than the player on the bridge. Which means the argument for NVL, were they to try for a hail Mary, miracle manoeuvre , changes. Arguably if the bridge victim were to jump and become incapacitated, it could be considered a last ditch attempt. Whereas the victim in a locked room, has no way to escape the guns." which I think is quite similar to this situation actually - you were in an enclosed space, with no obvious help coming and had already been disarmed (although pissed about with their demands then as well) and made a silly move while being at gun point.

I'm of the opinion that throughout this encounter you didn't value your life as you should have, however in fairness to you I have checked your record and you've never actually been banned from RPUK or had any issues with this sort of thing in the past. The only time you've actually been in trouble is when someone failed to comply with your demands and you weren't happy about it, which is interesting... take this on board as a serious warning, if you are found to be playing in this manner again, it will likely result in a ban.

When it comes to power gaming, he claims he was unaware and I don't really see any evidence to show he did know this.

Report Accepted
113175 - Warning Issued - (G2.4) Value of Life