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GeezerOP

Los Santos Police
Los Santos Police
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I can already tell this is going to be an unpopular opinion however.
In the city right now it seems every can get guns, their really cheap and crims have really easy access to them (especially if in an OCG)
It feel like most situations involving police end in a gunfight or start off threats of a firearm which for a UK themed city doesn't make much sense.
I do like guns being in the city as it does make for some interesting RP however, situations are becoming expected.
And yes you could argue that "well the police have guns" and realistically, i think we have too many of these. Not every officer in the uk has a gun but ftoc rates in city are pretty high.

Whats the suggestion?
Lower the access to guns for everyone within the city; crims and police. Realistically if police seize a gun off someone they wouldn't have another 10 laying around their gaff. And from the polices side - a firearms incident normally involves firearms units as officers with FTOC irl arnt that common.

Pros?
-More variation to rp situations
-Easier for new players
-Makes for fairer fights etc

Cons?
-People dont have as many guns
-Dev Work
-Grumpy police and crims cos they lost their gun
 
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womp womp

This has be a ragebait thread
 
brett_bernstein said:
fights are police running around with head armour yelling 1 dead and speedboosting anyway, dont know how removing gun supply makes things fairer in the slightest
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Im saying lower it for both sides, if crim supply is lowered so should officers with guns. Its not a one way change like
 
I see your point of view but it also shows it’s quite limited and missing a hell of a lot of information. The city has had a huge nerf in terms of quantities of guns and variety of. and it’s been happening since November 2024 and still has not returned to how it originally was.
 
AdamD said:
I see your point of view but it also shows it’s quite limited and missing a hell of a lot of information. The city has had a huge nerf in terms of quantities of guns and variety of. and it’s been happening since November 2024 and still has not returned to how it originally was.
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bring back marky spam with pbs
 
GeezerOP said:
I can already tell this is going to be an unpopular opinion however.
In the city right now it seems every can get guns, their really cheap and crims have really easy access to them (especially if in an OCG)
It feel like most situations involving police end in a gunfight or start off threats of a firearm which for a UK themed city doesn't make much sense.
I do like guns being in the city as it does make for some interesting RP however, situations are becoming expected.
And yes you could argue that "well the police have guns" and realistically, i think we have too many of these. Not every officer in the uk has a gun but ftoc rates in city are pretty high.

Whats the suggestion?
Lower the access to guns for everyone within the city; crims and police. Realistically if police seize a gun off someone they wouldn't have another 10 laying around their gaff. And from the polices side - a firearms incident normally involves firearms units as officers with FTOC irl arnt that common.

Pros?
-More variation to rp situations
-Easier for new players
-Makes for fairer fights etc

Cons?
-People dont have as many guns
-Dev Work
-Grumpy police and crims cos they lost their gun
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From a police standpoint, it is annoying being in constant gun fights.. you have a great chase, great interaction and bam shot.


I've been trying to go out on patrola without my gun tbh. I will always reward RP that prioritises planning, enjoyment and diversity rather than instant gun fights like
"Keep following you'll get shot" and all of a sudden multiple shot gun and automatic weapons are shot.


That would also require police to limit the amount of rifles carried and ftoc officers carrying.

Though, I believe last time we tried having fire arms keep their weapons in the safe, it got heavily exploited
 
I am in agreement with this suggestion and have talked about it a few times. For one we are meant to be a UK styled server but as a copper once said "everyone and thier mums has a gun round here" or it feels that way anyway.
Personally I would like to see both crims and the police have reduces access to guns and I remember the days back when i first started on the server where guns were cherished items, where someone had to earn the respect of a gang before even draining to broch the subject else they may be seen as suspicious. (I have never had a crim character so that last bit is based on things I have been told over the years). I would love if it could return ot that where mele weapons were the norm and guns only used sparingly and this could be done by reducing the stocks on guns int he city and reducing the supply of them
From the police side I would like to see the Police try again at firearms only having their rifles and helmets on them when authorised to do so and in the safe the rest of the time. THe issue we had last time was and please pardon my language here but some gangs took the piss with it and started targeting officers more knowing firearms response times were longer, and robbing firearms officers more to get the guns hence it was reverted back to how it is now. I would also love to see avant guard be scaled back so non firearms officers would need autherisation to get thier pistols out or, if an offcier of the rank wasnt available and active firearms situation taking place.
 
Avion Solar said:
I am in agreement with this suggestion and have talked about it a few times. For one we are meant to be a UK styled server but as a copper once said "everyone and thier mums has a gun round here" or it feels that way anyway.
Personally I would like to see both crims and the police have reduces access to guns and I remember the days back when i first started on the server where guns were cherished items, where someone had to earn the respect of a gang before even draining to broch the subject else they may be seen as suspicious. (I have never had a crim character so that last bit is based on things I have been told over the years). I would love if it could return ot that where mele weapons were the norm and guns only used sparingly and this could be done by reducing the stocks on guns int he city and reducing the supply of them
From the police side I would like to see the Police try again at firearms only having their rifles and helmets on them when authorised to do so and in the safe the rest of the time. THe issue we had last time was and please pardon my language here but some gangs took the piss with it and started targeting officers more knowing firearms response times were longer, and robbing firearms officers more to get the guns hence it was reverted back to how it is now. I would also love to see avant guard be scaled back so non firearms officers would need autherisation to get thier pistols out or, if an offcier of the rank wasnt available and active firearms situation taking place.
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1- Guns are harder to obtain nowdays than back in the day and it aint even a money issue back in the day money was the issue not obtaining the gun
2- You have to repair guns nowdays and they degrade compared to back in the day so already 2 nerfs there dont know what else you can really do to prevent what you are saying
3- Considering the amount of whitelisted gangs nowdays how you gonna split the gun market evenly and if you dont split it evenly it will just be gangs being bullied out the server because they can't fight back so they will just get bullied


TLDR this suggestion is pointless.
 
i think moving towards a pistols and shotguns meta would be good, but then i would just be pissed when Firerarms officers show up with guns that I can't compete with.
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L1L said:
i think moving towards a pistols and shotguns meta would be good, but then i would just be pissed when Firerarms officers show up with guns that I can't compete with.
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Tbh I'd love nothing more than to get to a state where only Trojan carry pistols and rifles stay in safes unless shits really hit the fan. People would cry but it'd be for the best imo 🤷‍♂️
 
Only real way your gonna solve the gun issue is wiping all of them, don’t think that’s going to please many people but there are too many in circulation to starve the economy as broken guns will be sat on and repaired.

Could this not be resolved within RP tougher sentences for guns etc.
 
AdamD said:
Only real way your gonna solve the gun issue is wiping all of them, don’t think that’s going to please many people but there are too many in circulation to starve the economy as broken guns will be sat on and repaired.

Could this not be resolved within RP tougher sentences for guns etc.
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just remove the ability to repair guns, and reduce dura, make the guns a use them or lose them type thing.
 
tbh from a PD POV who doesnt own a gun, it's almost unplayable. almost every situation I go to suddenly involves a gun and I need to pull off to value my life. I actually noted down, 70% of the calls involved guns, of the 30% I could go to, over half I suddenly had to pull off since someone pulled a gun. I got told "oh you perfectly can be a cop without a gun" by someone who carries an AR constantly... My experience really show otherwise. I cant even hide in station anymore cuz it keeps being pushed. Then im told "oh use the baton launcher", yeah, 22 rounds to incapacitate someone 10 seconds so he can tell his friends where Im at and kill me.

From a crim POV, I dont have anyone to play with, so when I bring her out and try to meet someone, I get a "fuck off or die" answer.

So yeah... defo +1
 
Alesia said:
tbh from a PD POV who doesnt own a gun, it's almost unplayable. almost every situation I go to suddenly involves a gun and I need to pull off to value my life. I actually noted down, 70% of the calls involved guns, of the 30% I could go to, over half I suddenly had to pull off since someone pulled a gun. I got told "oh you perfectly can be a cop without a gun" by someone who carries an AR constantly... My experience really show otherwise. I cant even hide in station anymore cuz it keeps being pushed. Then im told "oh use the baton launcher", yeah, 22 rounds to incapacitate someone 10 seconds so he can tell his friends where Im at and kill me.

From a crim POV, I dont have anyone to play with, so when I bring her out and try to meet someone, I get a "fuck off or die" answer.

So yeah... defo +1
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I have to say; as someone who has been in the Police since late July last year and has not done, nor will I ever do my FTOC. I disagree, it is not unplayable, in fact I would probably argue it is more enjoyable, I find not carrying a firearm has opened me up to more roleplay from groups and crims and also have found that I can attend most scenes perfectly fine as long as I don't act stupid. I do however understand that experience is not the same for everyone.
 
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