Criminals should wear their arms on their chest!

[Rodge]

Good evening

I've never made a suggestion before however I was chatting to a member of this community and wondered why there's the below imbalance:

Why don't criminals have to wear their arms on their chest?

I have both a police and a criminal character and always wondered why an M16 or a CQRA can be hidden into your pocket.

Sometimes the user mah value roleplay and use a small rucksack to give the illusion of a storage location upon their person.

My suggestion is that if you wanna pack a weapon, french baguette, or anything to that tune if length then it should be worn across the chest.

This would be better for everyone, in the long run.

 

[-JT_swuk-]

100% agree

 

[Maverick Delta]

I agree however the same as it is for a cop now, if you have a bag on your back then it can be hidden again.

 

[G.Mendes]

-1 Don't agree with it on their chest, It would just cause so much unnecessary shooting, but I can agree with wearing a duffle bag if ur carrying shotguns,AR's and some smgs?

 

[brett_bernstein]

only if we get an instant pull out time like feds, no more silly 5-7 days to pull out a gun.

 

[-JT_swuk-]

I agree however the same as it is for a cop now, if you have a bag on your back then it can be hidden again.

this is true but thats Rarely over utilised. like if crims are going out for eachother its a bit silly to be pulling services carbines out their ass

 

[-JT_swuk-]

only if we get an instant pull out time like feds, no more silly 5-7 days to pull out a gun.

that would be a fair trade. like the guns there on ur back/chest it would balance if u could just whip it out like the police

 

[Rodge]

What about the feeling that when you feel the need that it's time to equip the large, beefy assault rifle - that you plan it?

It seems now that anyone with a few quid just carries a big boy because they fancy it - I just wonder if that makes sense.

The idea of the suggestion isn't to weaken or strengthen the police or the crims as I lay my labia both sides - I just think we need to calm it down a little and maybe this could be a way.

 

[Freddyy]

+1 agree. Either that or as said above wear a duffle bag or something. Adds more realism to pulling a big 30 inch gun out your ass

 

[qaws]

Nah, there's already a win mentality within police. Being able to see exactly who is armed with what will only make it worse. -1

However, I would agree with some sort of dufflebag to use, but then I'd vouch for more options in that regard first.

 

[JackJohnson]

why there's the below imbalance

I don't actually think this is all that of an unbalance honestly, not in crim favour anyway - Police have their guns displayed on their chest, but in return they can instantly pull them out (much much quicker than crims). Anyone with a gun that big in Police also has HA, a panic button, usually 2-3 in a car etc... it doesn't compare to being able to conceal a weapon imo

-1 personally, seeing it on other servers I think it looks so stupid people walking about with guns displayed on their back or chest.

 

[Bmav]

I've never made a suggestion before however I was chatting to a member of this community and wondered why there's the below imbalance:

"bellow imbalance"

While i dont mind having a duffle bag to take a gun out and stuff i genually think currently with the buffs to police and indirect nerfs to crims i dont think this is a good time for a bigger disparity within the 2 considering the vast diffrence in gear between the 2.
You can say all you want about police having to be stronger than crims but at the same time they have such an abysmal diference right now i would consider it almost powergamy i could say all of them if you really want me to.

Overall an Ok suggestion if you take the duffle bag to pull out a gun thing into account but wrong time to implement -1

 

[Chilli]

Its a 2 way street though. If police can not see the firearms on their back it gives more reason for firearms etc to not have to get involved with the situation. Currently firearms are called to most situations as the traffic and response do not know whos armed with a bigger gun and whos not so its pre-emptive. Now if they could see their suspect has no gun and no bag on they have 0 reason to call for firearms to assist, Thus indirectly giving the crim more chance to 1 escape, 2 have a bigger gun stashed or 3 back up

 

[Bmav]

Its a 2 way street though. If police can not see the firearms on their back it gives more reason for firearms etc to not have to get involved with the situation. Currently firearms are called to most situations as the traffic and response do not know whos armed with a bigger gun and whos not so its pre-emptive. Now if they could see their suspect has no gun and no bag on they have 0 reason to call for firearms to assist, Thus indirectly giving the crim more chance to 1 escape, 2 have a bigger gun stashed or 3 back up

Yes its a 2 way street like it was a 2 way street when everyone in gang life asked for stuff like head armor to be removed from them under the assumption that less police would use head armor yet the opposite happen and you see more headarmor than ever on the police side, another example the marky nerf which again crims actually suggested it yet still alot of headarmor being used by cops.
In my opinion i have seen gangs suggest stuff to nerf themselves more than the opposing party Chilli thats just what i think though.
TLDR needs balancing but can't just nerf one side that actually dont mind nerfing it self but the other getting indirect buffs from one side getting nerfed 24/7

I dont even think the suggestion its bad on itself with the change that you need bags to be used so you can conceal it but the thing is at this time i dont think its a good addition like on the current "meta" per say.

 

[Rodge]

Its a 2 way street though. If police can not see the firearms on their back it gives more reason for firearms etc to not have to get involved with the situation. Currently firearms are called to most situations as the traffic and response do not know whos armed with a bigger gun and whos not so its pre-emptive. Now if they could see their suspect has no gun and no bag on they have 0 reason to call for firearms to assist, Thus indirectly giving the crim more chance to 1 escape, 2 have a bigger gun stashed or 3 back up

This being the point, it would be nice to be able to escalate in a more calculated fashion than having to let rip at eachother just because everyone's packing large scale shooters.

@Bmav I think needing to be able to hide the weapon or whatnot would obviously nerf the criminal character with the weapon, but in turn then nerfs the police character as they'll have no reason to have head armour / large guns.

 

[Bmav]

This being the point, it would be nice to be able to escalate in a more calculated fashion than having to let rip at eachother just because everyone's packing large scale shooters.

@Bmav I think needing to be able to hide the weapon or whatnot would obviously nerf the criminal character with the weapon, but in turn then nerfs the police character as they'll have no reason to have head armour / large guns.

Mate i mean no offense but that aint monitored again i just pointed out the fact of when crims asked for headarmor to be removed from them under the assumption less headarmor would be seen from police aswell even though it was agreed police needed headarmor but not to the extent that is seen nowdays where everyone has it.

Basically what i am trying to say is it just won't be properly monitored

 

[Rodge]

Mate i mean no offense but that aint monitored again i just pointed out the fact of when crims asked for headarmor to be removed from them under the assumption less headarmor would be seen from police aswell even though it was agreed police needed headarmor but not to the extent that is seen nowdays where everyone has it.

Basically what i am trying to say is it just won't be properly monitored

I also didn't mean any offence just trying to understand from all points of view!

I guess the point of the suggestion was to open a dialogue, I reckon (personal view) in the 3 years I've been about everyone's rolling heavy (including police) and the RP isn't accessible because everyone's rolling heavy!

Maybe it would be better if we all resorted to the heavier armoury when the RP dictates that the situation has escalated - it doesn't have to be immediately as we see today of a criminal brandishing a large weapon, firearms turn up, gunfight; someone wins.

Would be cool if we did some funny shit in-between, however this is just the humble opinion of one man!

 

[SteveStacy]

This only really works on the American servers because of gun licenses having it on here would be a shit show -1

 

[G.Mendes]

I think if this was changed to having duffel bags with every 2 hand held guns then I think most would agree

 

[L1L]

Slings was something that @Archie was working on back in the days, however i think the issue was that the weapon models were too high poly or something, so it would likely create more strain on the server -> more desync/lag