General Election 2019

[John Fletcher]

If you vote for smaller parties the bigger parties may change some of their policies to please the masses. You need to vote lol. If you don’t you have legit 0 say in any political matters for the next 5 years because you didn’t even try to fix it

While I believe what you're saying, I have no stand point in politics. There is no point in choosing a party I firmly don't agree with and with the majority of politics, I don't know anything about it. It's essentially playing in a minefield. 

 

[Handy]

 

[Vladic Ka]

So I still don’t like Corbyn or Johnson but found this really funny. 

 

[Coco]

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One is lager and the other is cider..?

 

[Bob Wilkinson]

And IIII will tell 500 lies and IIII will tell 500 more...

 

you ok boris?

 

[Fergu]

Labour is a stupid concept:

Charge the people who have earned their money well and fair.

Charge private schools tax, which will lead to a big loss of students and multiple possibilities of private schools shutting down.

Also when the wealthy people start to get taxed more they will end up leaving the country and probably go to a country whose aim isn't to become fully communist.

Yeah free unis and broadband is all good, but think of the consequences and think were the money will actually come from and how it will drain out very quickly. They will just print money, decrease the value of the pound and ruins the UK even more.

 

[Xkan]

Labour is a stupid concept:

Charge the people who have earned their money well and fair.

Charge private schools tax, which will lead to a big loss of students and multiple possibilities of private schools shutting down.

Also when the wealthy people start to get taxed more they will end up leaving the country and probably go to a country whose aim isn't to become fully communist.

Yeah free unis and broadband is all good, but think of the consequences and think were the money will actually come from and how it will drain out very quickly. They will just print money, decrease the value of the pound and ruins the UK even more.

Firstly, Hitler never said that. I'd seriously encourage you to stop believing any quote you see on the internet. Secondly, the idea that all money you earn espicially if you're ultra rich like the ones Corbyn wants to tax is all "Fairly earned" is just naivity at it's finest. 

Jeff Bezos earns in around 10 mins what his average employee would earn 60 years of working full time, He earns around as much in 10 seconds as his average employee earns a year. 
If you think that's justifiable and fair by any stretch of the imagination then you're simply out of touch with reality. 

Taxing the wealthiest more instead of letting them horde extreme amounts of wealth in order to accomodate for the less fortunate isn't communism by any stretch of the imagination. Corbyn wants to implement systems used by the countries that currently have the highest living standards in the world by almost every measurement but when he tries to implement it in one of the biggest economies in the world "It's unrealistic and madness" 

As for the free broadband suggestion, it's been suggested that it could boost the economy through improved infrastructure. Investing money into the public isn't throwing money away, it's called an investment for a reason.

 

[James Blezard]

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples’ money.”

"In my right-wing politics of the time, I held that unemployment was usually the fault of the unemployed."

"How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin."

"The problem is not that people are taxed too little, the problem is that government spends too much."

 

[Fergu]

Taxing the wealthiest more instead of letting them horde extreme amounts of wealth in order to accomodate for the less fortunate isn't communism by any stretch of the imagination.

It’s not just the wealthiest m8 for example my parents started of with absolutely nothing and had to work there way up by working extremely hard, my mum works a full time job as well as looking after 3 kids and my dad works for weeks usually and get maybe 1 week off in the major holidays like Christmas and summer. They do not deserve to have that hard work destroyed cause they want their children to go to a good school.

Also personally it would be against my morals to support someone who openly supports Hamas and anti-semitism 

 

[Bob Wilkinson]

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[Vladic Ka]

 

[Smith]

Feels like we're living in 1 country with 2 or 3 different and distinct populations of people in it. I only see this GE widening divisions further.

 

[Stealthee]

I have purposfully kept out of all the social media debates and kept away from the very vocal and aggressive political posts on social media it is my belief that voting is a very personal thing, you should vote who holds your best interests and who will represent your way of life/lifestyle best.

I live in a general conservative stronghold and a hold was expected but still brilliant result in my constituency yet again!

Turnout overall for the country seems to be slightly less than the 2017 general election which is dissapointing.





Edit I must add watching each declaration The Monster Raving Looney Parties costumes this year were giving me a good chuckle

 

[Ji]

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[Coco]

I guess it’s time to eat the rich

 

[Haywire]

stay away from Reddit boys it's not safe

 

[Xkan]

@Ji Mitch Whilst Socrates made valid points and perhaps voting results in America/The UK could be considered to even further solidify his point but I still think it's worth noting that the system he suggested would be near impossible to implement. When you put boundaries on who can vote the system often gets corrupted, when and how does it get decided if you're "Smart and educated enough to vote" Could those in power alter the system and the qualifications for who's deemed suitable to vote to fit their own standard? 

I honestly think the system's downsides far outweigh it's rewards. 

I think we should instead make more of a concious effort to relay facts and educate the public, espicially considering that most of the people I've encountered on this thread who's reasoning for voting for the conservatives this election was almost entirely based off lies and falsehoods, anywhere from comparing Corbyn to Hitler because they were both supposedly socialists (Which Hitler was not, please read up on history if you're ever in doubt) to saying that Labour were somehow responsible for the 2008 global financial crisis even though they clearly had no responsibility in it and there's no evidence to support the claim that it was their fault.
Now I'm not saying the people that posted on this thread are liars themselves but rather that they've been blatantly lied to by the conservative campaign and it's outer circles and they've chosen to believe said lies. 

It's honestly a shame but regardles of all of this though I still don't think we should ever aim to set boundaries on who can and who can't vote.

 

[Ji]

@Ji Mitch Whilst Socrates made valid points and perhaps voting results in America/The UK could be considered to even further solidify his point but I still think it's worth noting that the system he suggested would be near impossible to implement. When you put boundaries on who can vote the system often gets corrupted, when and how does it get decided if you're "Smart and educated enough to vote" Could those in power alter the system and the qualifications for who's deemed suitable to vote to fit their own standard? 

I honestly think the system's downsides far outweigh it's rewards. 

I just think it's an interesting video about the flaws of democracy. I'm not from the UK so I don't know the policies of the different parties and I have no opinion on who people should have voted for ^^

 

[Fidelis]

You mention immigration laws and how labour want a free movement policy it's been proventime and time again immigration stimulates economies it doesn't stunt them.Free movement with the working sector is vital to economic growth and is something that should be praised not seen as "them comin over ere and stealin our jobs and claimin our benefits"

It's not all about the economy. Free movement is terrible because it does not provide enough control - why should we not have much control and allow everyone from EU states to live and work in our country? You're correct, it benefits the economy but living standards and social aspects are just as important. I won't be spending my time debating this here but just wanted to mention the social impact. I believe an Australian style points-based system is a good alternative.

 

[Handy]