Increase Impound Time / Don't Scrap Cars

[Bmav]

I'd argue you, and your colleagues have had to work for this? You've had to apply to, be interviewed for, trained in and tested on your ability to get to that positions. Far more work than 'buying' a car. And the faction has had to work for these cars too? The faction suffers a net loss everytime you leave your vehicle out, money that has to be replenished through evidence transports and tickets. It's definitely not an infinite pot, and releasing cars from the impound costs command time + money. 

But equally, you face so many other challenges as cop (e.g policy, procedure, writing up reports) that things such as vehicles are left up to command to manage.

Agree with all your arguments besides this.

Ok, where to begin:

1- Saying you had to apply, be interviewed , trained and tested your ability fair enough you done all those things but besides the Interview and application everything you do in game ends up being with someone else and something you roleplay and something that you do like once and if you passed you done simple.

2- Don't even compare what the faction suffers as a net loss everytime a vehicle is out (besides the helicopters) compared to what a criminal loses once he is caught (which is most of the times). Just the cheapest gun not counting a musket is 220k with enough bullets to actually do something and this is not factoring the impound/scrap factor or the time you are probably gonna go to prison for or the amount you will receive in fines.

3- While cops to farm the money that their faction needs the only thing they need to do is go look for people to seize stuff from and go scrap it, civs or crims have to either go around in a taxi picking up NPC's  or do drugs which at the moments is the most profitable way of making money (And consider that you can also get caught doing drugs obviously). For that gun i talked about up in my 2nd point it will take you about 3-4 hours of selling coke to be able to get it. I kinda explained this in another topic but yhe my point being for us (crims not civs) to be able to roleplay accordingly to what we are, we need to waste about 3 hours to use a gun for probably around 20 minutes because you almost 100% get caught and again +fines +prison +Time you will repeat the process again.

4- Now you are gonna say work smarter, not harder well hypothetically speaking we could say doing crime would be more safe out of the city, but unfortunately that would be kinda hard considering most of the people are just in the city 24/7 because thats where everything is concentrated (rightfully so) and most of the activities are also close to the city or in it.

5- For you guys to work for that money you have to basically seize stuff which let's be honest gives you RP at the end of the day so when you are getting something from someone you are both getting money in the pockets of the cops and enjoying what you are doing as for us we have to sit on a bike, Taxi with no roleplay at all getting NPC's like we are collecting Pokémons for our Pokédex. (don't hate me for the reference just felt like it xd)

As for the other points you mentioned i would just like to say if it's so complicated to scrap a car than i honestly can't see why cops keep threatening that they will scrap someone's car literally at the start of a single chase for speeding,  it just looks like they actually have a OOC grudge against someone if they just go around saying that (Not saying i dont believe you, just think its dumb for cops to act like that).

I am just gonna mention again i don't think guns should be cheap to civs, I don't want to see every randy and their dog having a gun and turn into a world war server or something, if you ask me the guns should stay the price they are for civs but it doesn't make sense that at the moment gangs and civs basically get the guns for the same price that random civs get them.

Which is why on the other thread it was later suggested that the engraveds should be cheaper for gangs to make but not sellable to civs or make something like a breaking system so if they get a gun of a gang member they still have to go through the gun market to be able to fix it for the price they get them for or for a smaller amount than it is in the gun market (but not that small). But with this i would also be expecting gang's to act more responsible and for gang leaders to be more strict.

 

[JackJohnson]

While cops to farm the money that their faction needs the only thing they need to do is go look for people to seize stuff from and go scrap it

For you guys to work for that money you have to basically seize stuff which let's be honest gives you RP at the end of the day so when you are getting something from someone you are both getting money in the pockets of the cops

Just checking based on these comments - do you think the police receives the value of tickets and vehicle scraps? If so, then sadly that isn’t true, any vehicles scrapped completely disappear & any tickets paid goes nowhere. 
 

i honestly can't see why cops keep threatening that they will scrap someone's car

Simply, nobody should be threatening this. If someone has a good reason to actually scrap a vehicle then they will probably do it, but I don’t see the point in making threats about it. 

 

[Bmav]

Just checking based on these comments - do you think the police receives the value of tickets and vehicle scraps? If so, then sadly that isn’t true, any vehicles scrapped completely disappear & any tickets paid goes nowhere. 

When i said go scrap it i was trying to say like smelt the items if you know what i mean, wasnt saying anything about tickets or vehicle scraps.

 

[Bmav]

Couldn’t agree with this more, even as someone who has a character in RPU, I definitely think there is room for improvement to better benefit players. I do really think within RP is the best way though. 
 

My suggestion would be changing it from 2 serious offences/incidents to 2 serious offences/incidents within x amount of days

Just saw this and to be honest i think this would be good enough to have, its a bit of a blunder when most of the stuff you have on your criminal record never goes away and just keeps stacking and stacking so this for atleast the cars would be a significant enough change, in my opinion.

 

[Guest]

When i said go scrap it i was trying to say like smelt the items if you know what i mean, wasnt saying anything about tickets or vehicle scraps.

I'm confused as to what you mean here. As Chris said The Police do not make any gain on scrapping or impounding cars. None of that money goes back into the police budget. When cars get scrapped they cannot be pulled out. We can't go and strip things for parts. The Police is enforcement of law. Not farm money for us all to leer at. Only Police command know their budget normal officers have no clue.

Also why does everything have to be revolving around the use of a firearm? "Waste three hours to get a gun" use something else that's easier to get your hands on or find a way to not resort to violence. If you use a gun in any capacity you 100% deserve everything that happens to you. (Prison / fines / getting shot) play it smarter. Take a hostage to a house or somewhere that isn't the shop / bank / lifeinvader post it on tweedle. Make the police let you go because they literally have no idea where the hostage is. Not gun to head give 100k or death then rinse and repeat. Play it smart

 

[Bmav]

Also why does everything have to be revolving around the use of a firearm? "Waste three hours to get a gun" use something else that's easier to get your hands on or find a way to not resort to violence. If you use a gun in any capacity you 100% deserve everything that happens to you. (Prison / fines / getting shot) play it smarter. Take a hostage to a house or somewhere that isn't the shop / bank / lifeinvader post it on tweedle. Make the police let you go because they literally have no idea where the hostage is. Not gun to head give 100k or death then rinse and repeat. Play it smart

Maybe because gangs are suposed to be violent?  

Seems like i will have to repeat my self, I NEVER said that we shouldnt go to prison, Fines or getting shot, WHAT i said was that it doesn't make sense that Crims and Civs PAY the same price for a gun when reallitiscly a gang would have more ways of getting their hands on a gun than a civ.

The reason why it revolves around a firearm its because its the only way gangs can be violent in certain occasions its not like you can pull a knife on someone when someone is inside a car can you?

Also the fact that melee combat is a bit fucked in terms of targetting and also the fact that it makes sense for gangs to have them but only resort to them in certain occasions.

If we go by the factor why does everything revolve around a firearm then why is there so many firearms officers or why everyone seems to join that department? Common you can think why can you not?

And the only thing easier than a firearm would be a musket that could aswell be a paintball gun and it is louder than a cannon.

I'm confused as to what you mean here. As Chris said The Police do not make any gain on scrapping or impounding cars. None of that money goes back into the police budget. When cars get scrapped they cannot be pulled out. We can't go and strip things for parts. The Police is enforcement of law. Not farm money for us all to leer at. Only Police command know their budget normal officers have no clue

I didnt say that you got money from scrapping or tickets or impounds i meant the smelting of equipment you seize from people. shouldnt have used the word scrap my bad on that.

 

[CJ]

Thank you for taking the time to make this suggestion.

Unfortunately, I am going to be rejecting this suggestion for the following reason(s):

• Lack of community support.
• A lot of time has passed since this suggestion was made, and the server has changed a lot since then, so feedback from the current player base would be ideal.

Rejection does not always mean we would not consider the idea in future, so if you or anyone else disagrees and believes this would be a good idea, please feel free to make a new suggestion to gauge further community feedback.

SUGGESTION REJECTED​