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assgoggles

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Your In-game Name: Joe Bond

Name and/or ID of the player(s) you are reporting: 745

Which server did the incident take place on: GTA RP

Date of the incident: 07/05/22

Time of the incident (GMT) 24hr Format: 155

What best describes this incident ?: NVL, Breaking Character

Please (in detail) describe the incident: Me and a couple friends had got into an altercation with a taxi driver which ended up in a fight where we down the individual, as he had a M1911 we decided to take him to a dodgy doctor and give him medical attention, shortly after purchasing it random individual showed up so we decided to move him to another doctor to be safer, once we arrived at another doctor we got the individual up we had him at gunpoint and asked him to drop his gun, bullets and communication devices. He then decided to not value his life and ignore all instructions, we tried our best to roleplay with him and with no luck we decided to down him again and dump him. I would also like to mention he decided to break character mentioning break of rules (in regard to my friend saying he will count down, I made my friend aware that this is against the rules after the situation and he said he understood and won’t do it again)

Link to any evidence (Youtube/Screenshot):



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E47ttezwITg



This report is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!: Yes

You tried to resolve the situation with the player(s) before reporting: Yes

This is not a revenge report (Abuse will lead to forum/community bans): Yes

 
Hello there, im the one your reporting in said video had a feeling you'd report me after it all because you didnt seem happy at all after the rp had finished back in paleto once i respawned, just seems like you cut the video to make it look bad.  I'd like to just put out there that while i did mention about the countdown, it was only because that comes under fail RP, and just wanted to make you aware of it before we continued and when i bought it up the guy slurred his words which means he wasnt aware of it at the time until after it happened and you didnt get what you wanted so you decided to submit this report which im shocked at, because it couldve gone better for both parties but you've tried to make it look all my fault and that's ridiculous.

This whole thing should have been voided because of that slip up or better yet when you first dumped my body before taking me somewhere else. I openly admit i couldve just not said anything and didnt help that situation which for that i apologise,  i wasnt by any means breaking character maliciously or to break any said rules i never said it angerly or in frustration and the recording backs that claim and everything had gone to plan for me (not for you) for 30 mins up to that point. It was only to correct the RP so it went better overall for both parties after a solid 30 mins of RP'ing and me stalling.

For that I apologise, but you never tried to correct anything with me before reporting me. and you had ample time too because you came and checked up on me a solid 20+ mins after you'd dumped me to taught me and then said you was gonna watch me until i died, which you then parked up and did.

Continuing after the horrible incident i was straight back into character which is seen in the video and had been in character for the entire 25-30 mins before this incident which isnt in the video. I also once ocean dumped and dead continued the right way of RP for the following 10-15 mins after when i bumped into you again in paleto after buying stuff back and changing my clothes too which you approched me trying to get me to get in the car to most likely kidnap or ruin my enjoyment because you guys wasnt happy with the outcome. The RP should have ended with my death.

I replied im good boys i dont know who you are. which isnt in this clip also. In all honestly (I believe this is a revenge report because they didnt get any of my items and they was pretty angry about it which you can hear, and also after the incident when in paleto after i respawned and got some new clothes so that id be diffrent after the death, trying to get me back into the car, to which i pulled out a parked car i had and drove off to avoid any drama. they then followed me breifly trying to get infront of me to break check me and do god knows what else, before i went back on my radio updating where i was to people and they then eventually went a diffrent way and they left me alone which isnt in this clip either.

Now for my side of the story which they cut out and which sadly i dont have on bodycam as it was pretty late and i was on my way out the city so had closed my body cam down, another mistake  as with it i couldve stopped this report before it started. Im going to try and say as much as possible but can if needed get statements from the guys looking for me as to back up the RP i was giving that they say is not fearing for my life, which I believe I didnt break.

Before this video leading up too it i was taxi driving had been for awhile, and communicating to the gang im in via radio when they rolled up on me and rammed me off the road without saying anything at first a good maybe 2/3 bumps before I then called out and said (what the hell are you doing) they then taunted me saying we got repair kits if you want one and laughing, which made me start to get on my radio as i knew something was gonna go down and it all seemed suspicious. Which if shown the full 20-30 min clip it would be seen, i was giving away my location etc so they could find me, as there was about 8 of us on the radio and in the city at the time. They managed to injure me after wrecking my car and forcing me to get out and start fighting as anyone else would do as im a gang member and had weapons to defend myself and had no idea who these was so wasnt going to let them roll me over, to which i got beat as i had to dodge a car coming at me and bullets, to which i then went radio silent so some guys came looking for me as obviously they knew i was in trouble.

The fight had gone on for a fair few mins to the point i had friends who was on the way, (in fact if they have the full recording and shown you it you'd see in it that i had some friends who had been shadowing themonce they picked me up and took me away but the guy who found them originally was on a bike on his own  (hence the guy who appeared on the bike in white when you first took me to the first dodgy doctor which then spooked you guys and you quickly picked me up and took me somewhere else avoiding all roads and everything because you knew they was looking for me) which is not in this clip. I knew that my friends were in the area and roughly had some idea as to where i was as i saw said guy on the bike and another later on another bike and knew who they was.

So with me knowing all this i decided my plan was to just stall until they found you because i knew you guys was gonna revive me as you told me, (which isnt the rule break you say because i knew at any moment my friends could have come round the corner and saved me and also youd already injured me the first time when we fought, hence why i just kept talking and talking in the clip once revived). Clearly my stalling tactic annoyed you because it wasnt going the way you wanted it to go but im a gang member and obvously im not gonna just let you roll over me if i have backup coming and knowing safey was coming didnt have a reason to fear anything as i still had weapons on me and was back on my feet as you guys revived me and could have just carried attacking you and just made a last stand as most people would do. It was all apart of the RP i was doing in hopes someone would come to my aid, i told you numerous times in the car that they know where i am and they will come looking for me etc, which you just laughed at and didnt really offer much else in the kidnap RP apart from just abuse and telling me to shut up or ill get ocean dumped, so either way i was getting dumped, so why not stall and hope it doesnt happen?

In all honestly (I believe this is a revenge report because they didnt get any of my items and they was pretty angry about it which you can hear because they didnt like the rp i was doing. After the incident when in paleto after i respawned and got some new clothes so id look diffrent, they then tried to get me back into the car, to which and if they had the clips youd hear my voice respond to them about not knowing anything. I pulled out a parked car i had in the garage and drove off to avoid any drama. they then followed me trying to get infront of me to break check me, before i went back on my radio updating my friends as to where i was which would also be heard if the full clip was around and they then went a diffrent way and they left.

To be honest im surprised you reported me, because you guys hurled abuse at me for nearly 40 mins even with me giving good RP leading up to the clip and also afterwards. The one mistake you guys made i called you out on (which i should'nt have done which i apologised for but its ridiculous you leave so much context out to make yourselfs look innocent).

 I believe you only reported me because you didnt get any items from me and feel it was a waste of your time, when in actual fact it was all apart of the RP i gave and had all perfect excuse and structure too it and happened they way it was suppose to which is why i was happy with the outcome, yes not ideal me getting dumped or dying but id done everything i could to make it satisfactory.

That's why I believe this is a revenge report, because you also broke a rule which yes you own up too but at the time brushed over completely and didnt apologise for until you decided to report me and realised might get called up on.

I believe i did everything i planned to do. (sadly apart from get saved in time, which was closer to happening but you guys sat and watched me die at the cliff in your car preventing anyone from saving me really. If i had been saved, i dont believe this report would have happened. All i can do is be honest and fill in the blanks you guys didnt fill in. 

I wish this couldve been avoided if you'd spoke to me instead of just body blocking anyone saving me and watching me die for your own enjoyment when i waited the full timer which gave you so much time to confront me if you wasnt happy with anything as i wasnt mad or angry it was only you guys. Instead i have had to write this to plead my case, I apologise for what happened in the video and own up too it, was a lapse it was only a retaliation to theres and wanting to just get everyting straight.

 
Firstly, I made multiple attempts at getting you to teamspeak or discord and if there is logs of OOC chat which staff can  see then it will be shown there. It is a complete lie to say I didn't try resolve this. I don't have video of the rest of the situation so therefore its pointless arguing about it as half of what you have stated as it isn't true. This isn't a revenge report, its simply a report because you clearly didn't value your life, held at gun point, outnumbered and a person with a weapon stood behind you while you are barely able to walk, you failed to comply with multiple orders but we decided to give you multiple chances to comply, that isn't stalling it's simply NVL, I don't care how many people are in your gang or are looking for you when outnumbered, at an obvious disadvantage you comply with what is being said as the rule states and as you didn't you died. 

You're statement of saying we then carried on trying to get you in the car after you had respawned is just false, as you said you had changed clothes. I had no clue who you were until you spoke and I recognised the voice then we left you, nothing happened between us and you after that. 

I am unsure of what good RP you gave before the clip, you had been shot multiple times and then hit in the head with a shovel and failed to act injured the whole time which I would argue is the bare minimum of decent roleplay.

No rule was broken on our part, no countdown was actually done as I am fully aware of that rule and wouldn't of let it happen. So once again, this is false.

In my opinion this is a pretty clear cut case of NVL. Failed to comply with orders multiple times when at an obvious disadvantage. You also broke character which is clear as day in the clip. 

If I had any other recordings of the whole scenario I would show it but I don't as my medal only captures 5 minutes prior and I only felt the need to clip what I believe to be a rulebreak. I will leave this up to staff.

 
I’m not gonna get into a heated debate about this because doesn’t really solve much, I’m happy for staff to make a decision I just wanted them to have all the facts you left out beforehand, obviously what I said is true because you admitted to it and then just changed bits that make you look bad, least I owned up to my mistake… I wouldn’t just make up the entire situation time scale to time scale with exactly what happened when and where.

You don’t have a body cam that’s fine, but too make this all one sided is ridiculous. I was happy with the outcome, you wasn’t and I was the one who died and lost items you can’t report me because your unhappy, of course you’ll be the one to complain about it Because it didn’t go as you expected as it should, not all things are cut and case and maybe what I was RP’ing wasn’t to your liking, but I enjoyed it, I was fully prepared for this and your complaints because you could hear how unhappy you was, hence I wrote exactly what happened in its full events.

It’s a shame you have to disagree with it when it happened exactly how described. But it is What it is. And everyone’s going to make there own mind up.  
 

I was online for a solid 30-45 mins after the event happened and I never saw a single OOC about teamspeak nor did my friends otherwise I would have come into it and explained, you can think what you like, I played the role perfectly, just because you had 3 people to my 1, but I was armed and on my feet and had 3-4 people on the way doesn’t mean I have to just blindly comply there and then because you say so, I did what I did which was stall as everyone else would do as do police and others in real life hostage situations, and sadly didn’t work out for me, I accepted that, sadly you guys didn’t hence the ridiculously biast report. I was fully prepared for what happened and I don’t regret anything nor am I angry about anything, Its just a joke that you think it’s okay to twist things to your own favour and blatantly lie to staff because your unhappy about how it went and you was the party that had nothing to lose. Either way. Let the staff decide, or we can all sort it out over TS if needed with a member of staff present.

Have a good day. 
 

 
I see no reason to go to teamspeak after your replies to this report as you stated "you played the role perfectly". From what you have said it comes across that you might need to read the rules again. 

You had just received poor medical attention from a gangster who has little clue what he is doing with a defib just because you are armed doesn't mean you don't have to value your life as your character has still received no attention to the 4-5 bullet wounds he had nor the possible concussion from being hit in the head with a shovel so he would still be very injured. I would love to know how you were aware that 3-4 people were on the way considering you would of had no communication with them for around 15-20 mins and they would of had no clue where you were, very interesting.

Unsure how this is biased, if you were unhappy with any of the RP prior you could of asked me to come to teamspeak but you didn't. I will state again that I asked multiple times for ID 745 to come to teamspeak or discord, I'm sure staff will be able to prove that.

 
Sorry I have only just looked back at this. 

 I know your not happy with the incident, and I have said my part and while you disagree you also agreed with some of it, so clearly what I have said is the truth because I already owned up to the warning you about counting down in previous replies… and you guys own up to nothing surprisingly but change your story and rules broken. I also explained why I feel that the not fearing my life wasn’t broken as-well… and I stand by my statement because it’s as true as it’s ever going to get until you guys release a full clip which won’t happen because if you did it would incriminate you. 

Now I assume that you thought I wouldn’t defend myself on this report or you honestly thought this was the perfect flawless report and wasn’t expecting me to make sense and counter all of your allegations. Well I did and I don’t think you like that I’ve told them the truth and not the suspiciously bias timed clip you sent them.

But for the sake of proving and getting the admin to look at this as a revenge report in a serious matter. I’d just like to point out that the two rules you’ve accused me of… I’ve defended with my side of the story and because you know that my statement is true… and you worry they won’t stick you’ve now decided to move the “goal posts” so to speak and try to Chuck in a “failure to RP injuries” claim, and also a “meta gaming” claim… without actually having evidence to back it up and your just desperately trying to find something that would stick so that the report doesn’t look suspicious.

Well just for the sake of defending myself every step of the way and if the admins decide to humour these added accusations i might as well defend myself again with the whole story.

So the failure to RP my injuries claim, I believe that I did RP my injuries as once you downed me I told you that you’d got me good and that the shovel really hurt, not once did you headshot me and it was the shovel that killed me not gunshots.You then picked me up and shoved me in your car. (I remained quiet for a solid 1-2 mins as I popped into my head to get a glass of water after all my shouting down the radio to my friends, Im already injured and kidnapped so I thought I had time too, once I came back into my head you kept asking me and I quote “who you calling on your radio” “who are you” “what gang are you in” and because I wasn’t replying at first you decided to hurl abuse at me and tell me that “if I didn’t respond you guys would ocean dump me and I’d never see my gang again…” and “it would be in my best interests to reply to your questions as it might just save my life” plus “who even are you in the gang if there looking for you, you must be high up then”  So I then replied. Because after all I don’t want to die… I just want to be released so I answered your questions and surprise surprise you didn’t keep your word and still ocean dumped me anyway which I even bring up in the clip when I say you already lied to me, which you all brushed off real quickly.

If we’re being honest here you massively power-game’d me which is against the rules if we wanna add goal posts and add accusations to the report…. because if I didn’t reply to you… I was getting ocean dumped, i did reply I was still ocean  dumped and also you guys was gonna dump me even if I did drop my items… because I heard you talking about it beforehand so either way I was getting dumped… how is that a fair RP  scenario and how is that even allowed? It’s a joke that no matter what I’d have done it was the same outcome, and when I do bring up that counting down is against the rules all of you paused as if too be like “oh shit he’s right” and then said “oh don’t be like that” acting as if you guys hadn’t already ruined the RP way before that point. But now you wanna report me on top of that? When does it end…

Moving on from that, the “meta gaming” accusation is ridiculous… I was on my radio the whole time before being downed… I had told my friends where I was, how many of you there was, and also what was happening… after making all that noise on my radio they got concerned so of course soon as I went dead silent and wasn’t responding they started to look for me… as would police or NHS or anyone who’s in a gang or even just playing with friends… and using the radio system. Just to further secure the point, my friends knew where you was and was following you from the city on a bike all the way to Sandy too the first Doctor purely because you made it so obvious and he was round the corner. He was on his own so he opted to stay back… he just came a little too far forward when you guys was messing around with the doctor because he thought that you guys wasn’t looking, instead you was and you got spooked, so he turned around and retreated to a distance so that he could relay information about you guys, he then followed you loosely to the second doctor where the clip then starts… the entire 20-30 mins that we RP’d before my death you had already been clocked and monitored, I didn’t have to “meta game” and I wouldn’t have anyway… I was prepared for whatever happened. And was aware they was in the area. They was also watching you when you decided to watch me die by sitting in your car by the cliff, he was across from you guys on the hill sitting on his bike, he just couldn’t do anything because you’d have just killed him if he tried anything and he was just waiting for some of our other guys to get there but because you watched me till my death they couldn’t really do much but hope you guys decided to leave so they could come down, but you didn’t. And that’s why I respawned at paleto which is then when I bumped into you guys again and you guys decided to break the New Life rules (which is another rule/accusation I can place against you aswell) by trying to continue with me and only after I shut you down and got into a car and left was when you decided it wasn’t worth it anymore. 

While I own up to the clip and say it was stupid of me to bring that up and have apologised a few times, I don’t Own up to anymore of there accusations, and also don’t own up to the two extra rules there trying to bring into this as well, i’m just covering all my bases and giving as much info as I can so that the report goes the right way. I believe none of them was broken and stand by that. 

I also stand by my statement that this is a revenge report and I hope it gets looked into as one as well as a usual report because I feel as if they are just trying to push and pin anything then can in hopes I get some form of punishment so that they can laugh about it and say “well as least we got something out of it”   and no longer feel angry or salty that it didn’t go the way they wanted it too go… it’s a joke that at the end of the day they  broke rules, killed me watched me die taunted me and I lost everything, but that wasn’t enough and now there trying to pin anything they can onto me.

I don’t really have much else to say  on the matter anymore unless an admin wants to know more which I’m more then happy to give or have my friends who watched it happen give.
 

Thanks for hearing my side of the story.

 
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This is going round in circles so I'll make it abundantly clear. If I had the clip of the entire situation I would show it, but I don't. I clipped the rulebreak, simple as that. I already stated that talking about anything else in the situation is useless as neither of us have actual evidence of what happened. I am not reporting you for metagaming or failure to RP injuries as I have no evidence of that. Me and my friends broke no rules, if we did then please by all means upload evidence and report me.

You didn't value your life, its as simple as that and is shown in the clip. You were thrown into the ocean because I told you that if you don't comply you will be killed. You chose not to comply and therefore you were thrown into the ocean.

Not once was any power gaming done. If you had of complied we would of continued the roleplay after taking what was in your pockets, but you chose not to. 

At this point I feel no need to reply anymore unless staff ask me to. We are going around in circles and you're adamant that you are not in the wrong so I guess we will leave it to a staff decision at this point.

 
@assgogglesput this report aside for a moment and just talk normally because im pretty sure were both sick to death of reminicing about it all. Originally you was willing to talk in TS about this, i never saw you ask on the night and thats the truth, otherwise i would have. I am willing to speak in TS with you now, or whenever you would like, so we can discuss this properly and hopefully get an outcome we can both be happy with and gain from, are you down to do a teamspeak chat? I'm being serious with the offer... no anger or any sarcasm it will be a man to man conversation and if it doesnt go a way were both happy with then least we tried?

We can try and get an admin present if you would prefer one, im fine with that, i've just sat down earlier today with myself and thought that At one point we was both willing to do this and its just got blown way out of proportion on both ends, im still willing if you are, doesnt have to take long and doesnt have to be right this second, i can work with your timeframes.

Let me know.

 
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We have spoke about it in depth here, at this point teamspeak won't change anything. You're adamant you've done nothing wrong and I'm in the belief you have. Leaving it up to staff.

 
Alright man, no worries, least I tried to talk it out, I feel talking in teamspeak would’ve solved a lot of this now that a few days have passed and we’ve both had time to sit on it. But no problem if you don’t feel the same.

If you change your mind let me know. 

 
Hello @assgoggles& @IMaGiiKsI

Alright so, I have read through everything that both of you had to say and I am going to comment on a few things here and give my final decision,

From what I read there was a car crash incident which transpired into the three individuals taking @IMaGiiKsIhostage, before @IMaGiiKsIwas taken hostage he apparently was talking to his friends on the radio trying to seek help but unfortunately got downed by the group of three. Once @IMaGiiKsIwas revived at the Dodgy doctor by the group and held him up so they could rob him its clear that @IMaGiiKsIwas not complying with the demands of the group by dropping his items when was at a severe disadvantage which later resulted in him getting killed and dumped.

Now, @IMaGiiKsIone of the biggest issues I have here is that you have not told the truth about you respawning because that was not the case correct? didn't you get revived by a medic because I see that you have been revived by a medic after they killed you and did not in fact respawn. Now that I have found out that you have not been fully honest how am I supposed to believe anything you said up to this point in this report?

As you have been at a severe disadvantage by the three individuals shown in the video holding you up and you not complying with them what so ever is simply not valuing your life. You said that you were stalling for your friends to come help which I think is fine, up to a certain amount of time as you have quoted that they were getting quite angry that you were not complying with them I think that is the point you start to comply with their demands because they are going to eventually get fed up with you and kill you and I think that is fairly obvious in the video.

I very much dislike when I find out when people lie about something because what else have you lied about in this report? and how am I meant to believe anything else you have stated in this report?

As you have come off of a permanent ban less the 6 months have past this means you will have to go back on a permanent ban to appeal.

Action Taken

CharID: 63584

Ban: G2.4

Duration: Permanent

 
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Thank you for doing your part in keeping the community clean.

Your report has been approved and action has been taken against the reported player.

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