@Autumn`
Thanks for replying so soon, don't worry about there being a lot to go through, I am happy to do so.
I am not in any way shape or form denying my participation in active robberies with my friends and fiance in Cutlass. I am saying that it was not a gang matter, it was friends hanging out and roleplaying. I have requested for this to be clarified because based on the wording of this rule, and the robberies that happen throughout this city, there has never been anything outlined that robberies can only be limited to your gang circle in numbers of 6. This is again, not a gang related matter. It’s a robbery. Yes, robberies are a hostile situation. You were not killed. There was clearly no intention to kill you. Yes, robberies occur with guns pointed. It does not mean you have to be trigger happy and shoot. You were robbed. You were removed from the premises as anyone who is a high profile individual would in a robbery. It had nothing to do with any “beef” with the Firm or the fact that you are a firm member. As you were aware, during the robbery which your clips miraculously could not be in full due to medal issues, you would know that your clip following clip B had people roleplaying that there were members from a completely different gang involved in order to steer any suspicion away from the robbery. Yes, you are correct. I am not a member of Cutlass. I have built a very close RP relationship with Cutlass and continue to do so with RP in mind.
Hi! So- I'm glad you are talking about this being a robbery. Why was nothing taken from us? I had my hands raised and was entirely compliant the full situation, and out of zipties due to being allowed food and water. You could've taken the items I had on me at any point, but didnt. So please stop calling this a robbery. It was a kidnapping, unless you don't know the difference and I can explain that to you in another reply?
Autumn has blacked out with Lily one time which consisted of not even tying her hair, wearing basic clothes, and a helmet. Arguably, sure you could say that you “know what I may seem like on robberies” but you are basing this on something that occurred many months ago with no actual tangible proof.
No worries then! You can make the report for powergaming then! Feel free to use my clip as evidence and we can sort that there. It is irrelevant to this report.
I do not believe I was actively intentionally committing any rule break so yes, of course I’m not going to sit here and blindly agree with you simply because you’re unhappy with the situation.
At no point have I said I was unhappy again, I
am rather sick of a trend building in this report of yourselves putting words in my mouth. I am not arsed I was kidnapped, I am bothered that you, and others are consistently showing up in hostile situation initiations increasing the members Cutlass have available to themselves instead of their 25.
Lily, my understanding of this is you’ve been attempting to collect information on Cutlass for days now in other gang discords. Although this does not concern the report, you wish to bring things that don’t concern it into the reports so I will address this once again. You suspected Cutlass has been behind some of the robberies you’ve experienced, so you were actively seeking out OOC from different people for not 30 mins, but days now.
This is a wild accusation. Let me explain to you my interactions regarding cutlass in another discord, specifically the marabunta grande one:
I was told that after I was robbed, and spent hours moving around the city trying to find out who did it, by mara the same people robbed them earlier (clothes were highly identifiable), I was told to hop into the mara discord as they couldn't send the body/dash cam they had from their situation due to length or size? I am sure Luke or James can clarify this if staff find this of any relevance.
After this, you'll never guess what, we saw the same people robbing, but the worst thing is? It wasn't even needed. I was robbed by people in suits, bowler hats, using the pipe decal etc. They also were. They identified themselves that it was I believe Craig David? And told me this in character, we agreed the clip couldn't be used in city, as while you can argue the car being there, the person doesn't have their phone out or body cam on! So when I asked a trustworthy person whether it was true, and they cleared their name: you will never guess what? We left it! We let it be! We moved on, because well- there was no further evidence!
So congratulations, you have just tried to slander me, lied about me publicly, without any proof. If you still take issue with this, make a report.
If you would like, I can also explain to you why these pieces were brought up: Simple, it is a background on possible zerg's that people did not know you were not within the Cutlass F6 for. I checked this with staff before making the report as to whether I could bring these up, and was told it is up to staff discretion of who is dealing with the report, (forums-2316).
Instead of addressing, or stating why you were there, you've replied by trying to throw things at me without proof. The difference is,
I am happy to explain my actions because I have done nothing wrong. You consistently throwing any sort of "one up" on me, whether it is painting me in one way, or ignoring sections I have replied to, well- I admit its quite smart- but it just wont work, as I am happy to sit here and debate each word you've said and go back on points. I haven't sat here at any point and said "you must be upset", "you must feel this", "you did this (but with no proof)." Each statement I make is backed by evidence and facts, because what's the point of wasting staff time in reading these almost harry-potter book length responses,
to just see nothing of substance, or well- evidence!
Aka. If you're going to try and drag me through the mud in order to make yourselves seem better, I'll repeat the same thing when you initially brought up "power gaming", make your own report. Please, give us evidence of me doing that. Again, I can repeat from my message above- we know in RP it was you, not even from your voice. I will explain how to staff, but not to yourselves to prevent any metagaming and harm to the people involved that allowed for us to know.
Now, I'll make the following points very clear as it is becoming a rather boring trend from both yours and Kilo's messages.
1. Stop putting words in my mouth. It is boring, and I will just call you out on it, and re-explain happily.
2. Stop bringing up "suspicions" or other rule breaks, make your own report. It is within the 24 hour time period, you have what? 8 hours. If unhappy, make an extension request via a ticket.
3. Stop painting that I am upset at this situation, I don't know how else I can put this: I am not upset at the situation, I am, as a player who is concerned of unfair rule breaks, reporting you, for breaking a rule in my eyes. Are you going to reply to any and all future rule break reports against yourself painting the same story?
While you may feel this is me dismissing things Lily, I can assure you that I’m not. I’m explaining my point of view and hope you understand that these responses are not fuelled with any resentment or anger.
I appreciate this quite a bit. I try my best to see things from your perspective, but I cant excuse words being put in my mouth, or myself being publicly lied about.
Don't try drag me through the mud, do not try and put words in my mouth. Stop with the character degradation, it wont work. Reply to the problem in the report, don't sit here and just try to drag me through the mud so you look better.
At this point I have said my piece to yourself and Kilo. I will reply further if I deem it necessary, but there is also six other people involved who I will likely have to reply to.
Give ma a couple minutes
