Report a player - Hustlers IDK - GTA RP

[2letters]

Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Nathan Porter
Reported Players: Hustlers IDK
Date: Jun 4, 2025
Time: 21:02
What best describes this incident: RDM? No roleplay provided.
Please (in detail) describe the incident: Hello, A few of the boys were at Silo's opposite stab city asking for a repair kit, so I said i'd head over and repair. Upon arriving I wasn't aware of anyone 'hostile' being there, I heard something about a zip-tie etc but wasn't 100% what was going on, I assumed we had someone there getting medical treatment. I arrived to silo's and radioed asking if this was the car they wanted fixing and started fixing it, to which I received a gunshot in the back & then after a couple of minutes I was bundled into the car and driven away from the scene. I attempted medical rp with a /me saying I was bleeding heavily from the GSW, to which it was ignored & I was dumped outside of Yellow Jacks because I was 'bleeding badly'. The /me & being dumped in YJ's carpark wasn't captured as it was after I captured the original footage of the shooting. I wasn't spoken to by the reported individual(s) at all for the entire duration of the roleplay, and I also had no 'identifying' attire on that would even highlight me to be part of the group they were 'pushing' there.
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[Valianted]

hi, seeing as you've reported Hustlers as a group I'll respond to this report so it can be swiftly dismissed.

Reports require a minimum of 3-5 minutes before the alleged rulebreak so more context can be gathered. I don't believe your 50 second clip portrays a 3 hour situation very well, if you could provide an extended clip that complies with guidelines that would be awesome.

Hello, A few of the boys were at Silo's opposite stab city asking for a repair kit, so I said i'd head over and repair.

I think you might've missed the following comms.
"We need that ziptie for the boy" - Implying your about to make a mistake
"I have a ziptie I'm heading up there." - Reinforcing the fact your about to make a mistake
"Was any of us in a black sultan" - TFA member looking for a TFA corpse?
"Shots at (?)" - Mistakes were made.

0:41 - Shots can be heard in your vicinity - Hustlers lettin em know.

You decide to step off a bike and try repair a vehicle that TFA have been using to fight us, whilst being armed with a Glock yourself.


When arriving to a situation in the future and people are requesting zipties and "shots fired" is screamed in panic over radio. I would advise seeking some further details as soon as possible.

As your gang failed to inform you I'll give you some context to what ignited the situation.
At 10PM, Ricky, Special Division of Reconnaissance within Hustlers flew above your turf with a swift. He saw what he believed to be 15-ish Grey war cars outside yellow jacks.

You head to club, fire is exchanged between both parties and members are downed. You "bundle" a couple of our members into a car and attempt to head to dodgy doctor. Ryan Lee, another Trained Pilot had spotted you going up to dodgy doctors. This was relayed to the troops and we went down to retrieve our members. This leads us to the rough time of your clip. We had managed to successfully revive 4 of you and took you to a location for further roleplay to give some depth.

I was bundled into the car and driven away from the scene. I attempted medical rp with a /me saying I was bleeding heavily from the GSW, to which it was ignored & I was dumped outside of Yellow Jacks because I was 'bleeding badly'. The /me & being dumped in YJ's carpark wasn't captured as it was after I captured the original footage of the shooting. I wasn't spoken to by the reported individual(s) at all for the entire duration of the roleplay, and I also had no 'identifying' attire on that would even highlight me to be part of the group they were 'pushing' there.

If you feel any further rules were broken please make a report WITH sufficient evidence. In the future, we are more than happy to resolve misunderstandings like this in a QE but would prefer to do so after the roleplay has finished.

If you would like to talk to any of us individually you can reach us in groups.

Thanks for taking the time to report.

 

[2letters]

hi, seeing as you've reported Hustlers as a group I'll respond to this report so it can be swiftly dismissed.

Reports require a minimum of 3-5 minutes before the alleged rulebreak so more context can be gathered. I don't believe your 50 second clip portrays a 3 hour situation very well, if you could provide an extended clip that complies with guidelines that would be awesome.

- It's 3 minutes, I assume it might still have been processing on youtube when you watched it.

EDIT: Sorry i didnt read that properly. I flew in literally 1 min before the recording started. I only have it set to record 3 mins prior, i'll increase that. I didnt even know anything was happening - I flew in for church but heard a call for a repair & then omw heard about the ziptie. I had 0 information about what was happening but you still shot someone for fixing a car, could of been a member of any group that just saw the car on the side of the road and fixed it to take it. I still don't see a reason to shoot someone with 0 RP that is no threat to you?

I think you might've missed the following comms.
"We need that ziptie for the boy" - Implying your about to make a mistake
"I have a ziptie I'm heading up there." - Reinforcing the fact your about to make a mistake
"Was any of us in a black sultan" - TFA member looking for a TFA corpse?
"Shots at (?)" - Mistakes were made.

0:41 - Shots can be heard in your vicinity - Hustlers lettin em know.

You decide to step off a bike and try repair a vehicle that TFA have been using to fight us, whilst being armed with a Glock yourself.

- They asked for a ziptie for the boy
- Who said they have a ziptie? I said "I dont"
- I think they were just asking if anyone was in a black sultan, idk i cant read minds to tell if they were looking for a corpse?

0:41 - no shot? unless either im deaf or you have really good hearing?

What you're saying is that me stepping off a bike to repair a vehicle was grounds to be shot with no roleplay?

Idk what me being armed with a glock has to do with the situation?

When arriving to a situation in the future and people are requesting zipties and "shots fired" is screamed in panic over radio. I would advise seeking some further details as soon as possible.

Again, unless i'm deaf or you're hearing sign language, where is 'shots fired' screamed in panic over the radio?

As your gang failed to inform you I'll give you some context to what ignited the situation.
At 10PM, Ricky, Special Division of Reconnaissance within Hustlers flew above your turf with a swift. He saw what he believed to be 15-ish Grey war cars outside yellow jacks.

You head to club, fire is exchanged between both parties and members are downed. You "bundle" a couple of our members into a car and attempt to head to dodgy doctor. Ryan Lee, another Trained Pilot had spotted you going up to dodgy doctors. This was relayed to the troops and we went down to retrieve our members. This leads us to the rough time of your clip. We had managed to successfully revive 4 of you and took you to a location for further roleplay to give some depth.

This happened at 9:02 PM so not sure what Ricky and his swift has to do with it, Glad you gave some roleplay and depth to them however I was bundled into a car and left outside Yellow Jacks, no medical RP, not even spoken to just dumped in the car park..

 

[norskov23]

Hi Nathan,

I was the person that drove the Pariah and took you to Yellowjacks. However, if I recall correctly i'm not the person that killed you at the gunfight.

I am disappointed that there was not made an attempt to liaison directly after the situation. I believe a conversation in QE would've cleared up what seems to be a lack of insight from your point of view, with all due respect. I also think it's odd that this was posted after the fight we had, which you lost, and where there was clearly some negative attitude (albeit coming from both sides), and the fact that one of your members wanted to go to QE, but never followed up on it, shows that in my opinion, this is a report that was made out of spite. But I digress, it is not relevant. If you would like to liaison, I am still more than happy to have a conversation.

As for the claim of RDM at the dodgy doctor by silos, while I am not the person that killed you, I still feel like i'm very much capable of explaining why it may seem like RDM to you, when in reality it was nowhere near it.

I would like to refer to what Jay Rich has mentioned; the fact that there were some vital communications from other TFA members over radio, which was shrugged off. I believe this to be a show of poor communication, which in my opinion backs the fact that you died unaware of the situation, with a lack of insight.
It is called over radio that there is "shots by silos". This, in my opinion should be enough for you to be aware that things are kicking off. The fact that you think it is someone else called "Chimmy", who i'm unaware of, is not our problem. It is simply poor communication.

We had shown up to silos after finding out where you were. As we spoke about in OOC last night, albeit with a more negative attitude, I am not under the impression that a new location means a new situation. Regardless, you are fully aware that you had 2 of our members hostage at the dodgy doctor. Forgive me, but it is not the intention of Hustlers Inc to simply walk up to you and politely ask you to let our members go. In roleplay, you had cut a finger off and bashed the leg of one of the members you had up. Again, you seem unaware of this. In all honesty, this seems like your own problem.

It is not shown in the clip, but the Pariah you were repairing was that of a TFA member we had been fighting against in Sandy. Therefore, all of us present at silos were under the impression that you were the owner of the vehicle, thus making you a TFA member, thus making you a target.

Additionally, the fact you are present at a gunfight, especially considering its at a dodgy doctor in a place where barely anyone passes by, you have to understand that we are quicker to be hostile at this situation than we would be at a different, more populated location. Had you not been a member of TFA, you could've told us and we would've taken you to the hospital right away. It's not our intention to just kill everyone and fuck them over. But you were a member of TFA, and you were there for the same reason countless members of yours got downed at the dodgy doctor.

Finally, i'd like to touch on what actually concerns me, the fact that you believe it's poor roleplay dropping you off at Yellowjacks and not providing any medical RP.

I'll be honest, I hold my hands up. I definitely could've provided better medical roleplay, but I stand by the fact that I believe dropping you off at Yellowjacks was the best course of roleplay for realism and integrity. In that situation I thought of three different options:

1. We treat you at the dodgy doctor. This was immediately shut down considering the fact that many members of yours had been shot there. More could very well be aware that everyone was there, more of your members could be there, making it an unquestionable risk to try and get you up there.
2. I take you to Pillbox; again, this was shut down. It doesn't make sense in roleplay for me to just drop you off at pillbox, after having been at a gunfight, my character is not going to show you the respect of taking you to the hospital.
3. I leave you at the front door of Yellowjacks in hopes that members of yours who had been taken to pillbox would return to the bar, see you, and get you medical treatment. While it's not the perfect solution, i deemed it to be the only right solution.

As I said, I definitely could've provided better roleplay, but with other members of ours being injured, I am not going to make you my number one priority when we have other members bleeding out, members with fingers cut off and smashed legs, etc.

I would also like to point out (G2.12), which is the rule i'm assuming you're referring to when referencing poor quality roleplay. It states "Not providing medical roleplay at any stage during a situation where your intentions are to revive them." My intentions were not to revive you at any point. While I understand that this rule is judged on a case-by-case basis, I still think it's important to consider the actual intentions before jumping to a conclusion on whether or not it is poor roleplay.


- Ricky, Special Division of Reconnaissance within Hustlers

 

[2letters]

Hi Nathan,

I was the person that drove the Pariah and took you to Yellowjacks. However, if I recall correctly i'm not the person that killed you at the gunfight.

I am disappointed that there was not made an attempt to liaison directly after the situation. I believe a conversation in QE would've cleared up what seems to be a lack of insight from your point of view, with all due respect. I also think it's odd that this was posted after the fight we had, which you lost, and where there was clearly some negative attitude (albeit coming from both sides), and the fact that one of your members wanted to go to QE, but never followed up on it, shows that in my opinion, this is a report that was made out of spite. But I digress, it is not relevant. If you would like to liaison, I am still more than happy to have a conversation.

As for the claim of RDM at the dodgy doctor by silos, while I am not the person that killed you, I still feel like i'm very much capable of explaining why it may seem like RDM to you, when in reality it was nowhere near it.

I would like to refer to what Jay Rich has mentioned; the fact that there were some vital communications from other TFA members over radio, which was shrugged off. I believe this to be a show of poor communication, which in my opinion backs the fact that you died unaware of the situation, with a lack of insight.
It is called over radio that there is "shots by silos". This, in my opinion should be enough for you to be aware that things are kicking off. The fact that you think it is someone else called "Chimmy", who i'm unaware of, is not our problem. It is simply poor communication.

We had shown up to silos after finding out where you were. As we spoke about in OOC last night, albeit with a more negative attitude, I am not under the impression that a new location means a new situation. Regardless, you are fully aware that you had 2 of our members hostage at the dodgy doctor. Forgive me, but it is not the intention of Hustlers Inc to simply walk up to you and politely ask you to let our members go. In roleplay, you had cut a finger off and bashed the leg of one of the members you had up. Again, you seem unaware of this. In all honesty, this seems like your own problem.

It is not shown in the clip, but the Pariah you were repairing was that of a TFA member we had been fighting against in Sandy. Therefore, all of us present at silos were under the impression that you were the owner of the vehicle, thus making you a TFA member, thus making you a target.

Additionally, the fact you are present at a gunfight, especially considering its at a dodgy doctor in a place where barely anyone passes by, you have to understand that we are quicker to be hostile at this situation than we would be at a different, more populated location. Had you not been a member of TFA, you could've told us and we would've taken you to the hospital right away. It's not our intention to just kill everyone and fuck them over. But you were a member of TFA, and you were there for the same reason countless members of yours got downed at the dodgy doctor.

Finally, i'd like to touch on what actually concerns me, the fact that you believe it's poor roleplay dropping you off at Yellowjacks and not providing any medical RP.

I'll be honest, I hold my hands up. I definitely could've provided better medical roleplay, but I stand by the fact that I believe dropping you off at Yellowjacks was the best course of roleplay for realism and integrity. In that situation I thought of three different options:

1. We treat you at the dodgy doctor. This was immediately shut down considering the fact that many members of yours had been shot there. More could very well be aware that everyone was there, more of your members could be there, making it an unquestionable risk to try and get you up there.
2. I take you to Pillbox; again, this was shut down. It doesn't make sense in roleplay for me to just drop you off at pillbox, after having been at a gunfight, my character is not going to show you the respect of taking you to the hospital.
3. I leave you at the front door of Yellowjacks in hopes that members of yours who had been taken to pillbox would return to the bar, see you, and get you medical treatment. While it's not the perfect solution, i deemed it to be the only right solution.

As I said, I definitely could've provided better roleplay, but with other members of ours being injured, I am not going to make you my number one priority when we have other members bleeding out, members with fingers cut off and smashed legs, etc.

I would also like to point out (G2.12), which is the rule i'm assuming you're referring to when referencing poor quality roleplay. It states "Not providing medical roleplay at any stage during a situation where your intentions are to revive them." My intentions were not to revive you at any point. While I understand that this rule is judged on a case-by-case basis, I still think it's important to consider the actual intentions before jumping to a conclusion on whether or not it is poor roleplay.


- Ricky, Special Division of Reconnaissance within Hustlers

Okay, i re-watched and yeah I missed the whole 'shots at silo' which is my fault.

You dropping me off at Yellow Jacks isn't the bad roleplay i'm reporting, the fact I turned up, whilst i'm fixing the car I get shot (i'm no threat to anyone, I could of easily be hands or told to fuck off) I then got put in the passenger seat of the car from the drivers side of the car and dumped outside Yellow Jacks without a single word being said to me or any form of RP at all. You didn't even ask if I was part of TFA apart from your assumption I own the car which means nothing.

To clarify, I learnt this situation was after your apparent push on Yellow Jacks at 20:30pm not the later situation at Silo's following us coming to Tequi-la-la which I believe Valianted believed it to be.

"It doesn't make sense in roleplay for me to just drop you off at pillbox, after having been at a gunfight, my character is not going to show you the respect of taking you to the hospital." - I wasn't in the gunfight, I could of been anybody there.

I was the one that said "We can go to QE if you want hustlers" because the side chat was being spammed, which isn't the idea of it. Nobody responded to it.

The fact that you think it is someone else called "Chimmy", who i'm unaware of, is not our problem. It is simply poor communication. - What, who, where, when? Who's mentioned Chimmy?

I couldn't post the report until after i'd finished in city because I can't upload a video and play, my pc nor internet cannot handle that level of activity.

There was also no gunfight during my approach that I can hear when I get there or approaching it.

 

[norskov23]

You dropping me off at Yellow Jacks isn't the bad roleplay i'm reporting, the fact I turned up, whilst i'm fixing the car I get shot (i'm no threat to anyone, I could of easily be hands or told to fuck off) I then got put in the passenger seat of the car from the drivers side of the car and dumped outside Yellow Jacks without a single word being said to me or any form of RP at all. You didn't even ask if I was part of TFA apart from your assumption I own the car which means nothing.

You were at an active gunfight. How are we supposed to know that you are unaware there is a gunfight? You're at the situation, repairing a car that is a TFA car. Of course we are going to assume you are TFA? And if you weren't TFA, you could've told us and we would've taken you Pillbox? But even if you weren't TFA, it wouldn't have been RDM in my opinion, because you were at an active gunfight - of course the roleplay outcome would've been different, but this is irrelevant, because at the end of the day you were a TFA member. The fact you got a call on radio saying "shots at silos" (00:20), which is where this gentleman "Chimmy" or "Jimmy" is mentioned, should've been enough for you to consider, if it wasn't your intention to be at the gunfight, that maybe you should withdraw from the situation for your own safety?

My point is, you were at an active gunfight. You were informed that there were gunshots going off. You still turned up to the situation. Yes, you didn't "hear" any gunshots, but the fact you got the information from radio, especially considering we had just had a fight at Yellowjacks and in the middle of Sandy Shores, you should be able to connect the dots that the remaining Hustlers would be out looking for you. It was not RDM. Had you not been a TFA member, we would've taken you pillbox. We are not going to walk up to everyone at an active gunfight and ask, just to make sure, if they are someone we are supposed to be shooting at.

"It doesn't make sense in roleplay for me to just drop you off at pillbox, after having been at a gunfight, my character is not going to show you the respect of taking you to the hospital." - I wasn't in the gunfight, I could of been anybody there.

Like I said, yes, you could've been anybody. But you weren't. Had you been anybody, you would've told me. And I would've taken you to pillbox. Because you were at the gunfight, we were under the impression you had been participating. Simple as that.

I was the one that said "We can go to QE if you want hustlers" because the side chat was being spammed, which isn't the idea of it. Nobody responded to it.

That was during a completely different situation and you know that. It was me trying to figure out if your members had returned to the situation after being downed at our fight by Tequi-la-la. I didn't deem it necessary to go QE because i took your word that none of your members had returned. But that is not my point. I hoped you would've called me to QE directly after the situation that you are reporting us for now.

There was also no gunfight during my approach that I can hear when I get there or approaching it.

There was a gunfight during your approach. Other members of TFA just didn't inform you, which is a lack of communication and a mistake on their behalf. You can see this in this clip, which shows that the fight had been going on for about a minute before you turned up.