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Report a Player - INS Ryker - RDM (Action Taken)

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Jordy

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Your In-game name

PC Jordyyy

Name of the player(s) you are reporting

INS Ryker

Date of the incident

13/05/18

Time of the incident (GMT)

2230

What best describes this incident ?

RDM

Which server did the incident take place on

Server 1

Please (in detail) describe the incident

I hopped in rykers hummy for a laugh and you can quite clearly see i was going to land back down because yano its a game i thought i could have a joke but apparently not. As i was just about to come back down i got shot out the pilot seat IN the bluezone.

Link to any evidence (Youtube/Screenshot)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrdH1bYHWHc&feature=youtu.be
This report is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!

Yes

You tried to resolve the situation with the player(s) before reporting

No

This is not a revenge report (Abuse will lead to forum/community bans)

Yes

 
Hey Jordy,
Sad to see you did not want to resolve this with me and instead went straight for the report.

First off let me give some context based on the situation. I was on an Undercover Patrol and I was landing at NPAS, as whilst I was gearing up I had forgotten to equip a backpack. Once I landed I did not lock my helicopter as I was expecting it to be a quick in and out situation as I only had to get a backpack and as I would not expect an officer to get in an undercover aircraft and steal it.

Jordy proceeds to enter the helicopter and starts to turn the engine on. Trojan patrols are not authorized the use of Undercover vehicles unless Gold Command authoritizes it and in addition he was stealing my helicopter which I was actively using. This is a thing Armed Response have been doing lately (using non-police skinned vehicles [Not Necessarily Undercover] such as Orcas and other Vehicles which are not obtainable from their white listing).

Whilst he was spooling up the helicopter I told him to stop, however he did not listen. Then as soon as he starts to fly off I shout to tell him that if he takes off I will disable the helicopter as I could not allow for an MI5 Asset to be stolen. However I only realized after the situation that I was in vehicle chat, and if Jordy supplies a few more seconds on that video you will see me standing next to him as if I am talking, only to then switch to direct chat as I  apologize. This is kind of similar to when one initiates on the tires of a vehicle and accidentally kills the individual.

It was never my intent to shoot him out of the Pilot Seat and I was aiming for the engine as I said in the initiation I thought was valid. 

The rule I am being reported for is rule 6.2.1, “(6.2.1) You must not attempt to kill anyone in a blue zone.” The key word in this rule is “attempt” I did not attempt to kill him, I was attempting to shoot the engine out. 

Also I wish to address the fact that you ticked yes on the “This is not a revenge report (Abuse will lead to forum/community bans)". I messaged you straight after the incident on teamspeak apologizing for my actions as I immediately saw the breach in rules of what I had done. You replied with “Its g” (http://prntscr.com/jhpr3a) and shortly afterwards we had a conversation on teamspeak where you started saying that it was "all cool" and that you were not going to report me. You then also mentioned that you were being told to report me by the rest of AR in the channel as well as DCC Coozer.  Then you get informed that you had been demoted to the rank of PCSO without weapons for 1 week due to you breaching police rule by attempting to steal an Undercover Asset. After that all of a sudden you decide to report me, which I feel is blatantly revenge for your demotion.

http://prntscr.com/jhrqlm

Additionally I would like to mention that if you would not have gotten into that aircraft in the first place this would not have happened. 

Onto what happened to me after the situation; DCC Coozer stormed inside of NPAS telling me that I was demoted to the rank of PCSO for 1 month, that I can not touch a weapon for 1 month and that I could not go on any specialised unit patrols for 1 month. I understand his grounds for punishing me; killing an officer and attempting to damage police equipment, however I still thought that 1 month was exaggerated which led me to leave the police and get blacklisted.

As I said, I am fully aware that I am in the wrong and what I have done is possible against the rules, and therefore I apologized to you mutliple times. It was foolish and stupid of me to try and shoot down a police asset and especially in a blue zone. I should have stopped and thinked before carrying out that action. 

To conclude, I am always available for a chat, so if you wish to resolve this on teamspeak just send me a message. I am acknowledging that what I have done is stupid, wrong, a breach of rules to a certain extent, but most of all an accident that was not purposely conducted. I hope the staff team can take this into consideration when evaluating this report. 

I will take this as another opportunity to apologize to you Jordy, I am aware that there was an RBA International Reserve taking place at the time and that I deprived you of the fun of a gunfight which I know you love. 

If any staff members have any issues or questions I will be more than happy to respond.

PS

Also I kindly request that this report is dealt with a staff member who is not in the armed response unit.

 
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Also @Jordy I wish to request for you to upload a larger video, ideally two to three minutes before and most importantly two to three minutes afterwards of the incident to provide context from your behalf.

http://prntscr.com/jhrpkz

 
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Also I kindly request that this report is dealt with a staff member who is not in the armed response unit.
Obviously we try all the time to avoid any bias claims, however do you think I'd allow staff members in my team if we thought them to be bias? 

Being a member of "AR" in a virtual game does not cloud their judgement on a report. If I even sniffed any bias in reports or appeals or any line of staff work then that would be dealt with, however I've not seen any.

If I can't trust a staff member to see from both perspectives then they wouldn't be in the staff team, simple. 

 
Obviously we try all the time to avoid any bias claims, however do you think I'd allow staff members in my team if we thought them to be bias? 

Being a member of "AR" in a virtual game does not cloud their judgement on a report. If I even sniffed any bias in reports or appeals or any line of staff work then that would be dealt with, however I've not seen any.

If I can't trust a staff member to see from both perspectives then they wouldn't be in the staff team, simple. 
First off, Drew, thank you for taking the time out of your day to reply to this report, on to what you said:

Understandable, and I fully respect that, giving it some more thought, I suppose you have a very valid point there and that staff are after all selected amongst many and always being assessed. So now I do not mind if anyone in AR deals with this appeal.

Also I do have some additional evidence provided to me by someone who does not want his name mentioned in this report in regards to a rule that Jordy broke during this situation. Who should I contact?

 
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First off, Drew, thank you for taking the time out of your day to reply to this report, on to what you said:

Understandable, and I fully respect that, giving it some more thought, I suppose you have a very valid point there and that staff are after all selected amongst many and always being assessed. So now I do not mind if anyone in AR deals with this appeal.

Also I do have some additional evidence provided to me by someone who does not want his name mentioned in this report in regards to a rule that Jordy broke during this situation. Who should I contact?
You hare free to send me the video via PM.

 
You killed a cop in bluezone same rules go for rebels there for action will be taken in this report 

(6.2.1) You must not attempt to kill anyone in a blue zone 


Name:Ryker


Steam ID:76561198111156031


GUID:5bc0de18fbb3ad685256864c26b1d60d

 
I have recived new information regarding this report !

Based on that information a unban on @Ryker will happen.

But as there was a rulebreak it will be action as a warning. 

 
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