Hello hello,
I'll adress all of the points raised above and then add no further.
Yes, within liason I did outline multiple times that there was ramming which is outlined evidently within the clips above. If this is what you believe is acceptable then fair play but as already outlined I expect more from you guys as the RP usually provided is of a higher standard in comparison to other groups knocking about.
"We are not going to let anyone get pulled over" - Fair play, if this is the case then that is fine and you are more than entitled to have this 'play-style' or 'attitude' towards the police however without prior context which I personally believe shouldn't be needed this is poor.
In relation to this incident ealier I woudl love to see a POV of this engagement that you are stating and again I do not see how this has any relevance for the RP provided in these clips. Also, if we can keep the points addressed clear and evident as 'hearsay' isn't really going to do anyone any favours when discussing this incident. If there was an issue with RP provided this should have been addressed at the time and I do indeed recall exactly what I said as I have reviewed my Medals and you are far from it so please don't make allegations unless there is a geinune issue which should have been raised by the individual earlier. At the time he did not have a problem and actually had a laugh and we had some good RP but I guess thats been miscommunicated which is no surprise.
I don't recall saying there were "guns shown at me", please tell me where I said this.
If you think that the escessive amount of "nuding" as you refer to is acceptable RP on this server then that is fair enough and again I do wish that you reconsider your methods of engaging. As I mentioned yesterday with staff present, there are a million and one methods and alternatives to 'rob' or 'interact' with police. In the above incident based on what has actually happened I don't think this is accetable and looks more like bumper cars and there was literally no verbal engagement from your lads, unless you can display otherwise... there literally wasn't.
"Moving onto some other issues with this report and the liaison please explain to me:"
- Why you came to liaison to say essentially "I don't care what you have to say I'm going to put a report up" then moving to say you'll listen to our argument to then putting the report up while we are discussing a separate situation with the MRAP."
I didn't say that, please don't mis-quote me and use 'hearsay'. I explained myself very cleary which again you understood after I clarified what we were talking about. Whilst within the liason I created a ticket which staff will have a log of enquiring about placing a report before I actually did. I have ample amount of time to hear a justification from your side before placing a report onto the forums whereby I do not feel a reasonable explanation was given on an individual basis for the roleplay and actions taken by your members displayed in the clips above.
- You start commenting on "rulebreaks" in game, breaking RP and essentially ruleplaying with comments like "not great engagement here but this is what the city has come to"
So I cannot say "no great engagement here but this is what the city has come to", I didn't think this would russle any bushes but I guess I'll justify the obvious. Yes, quite evidently, myself and the other officers present were dissapointed in the RP and behaviour displayed as shown in the clips and made comments over the radio which remained in-rp which I don't think I need to explain. Your members did not show "engagement" with us and again this was reiterated over the radio to provide context to all officers making way to us trying to understand what was actually going on.
- You said we could have tried to "grip you" before the chase by maybe pointing guns at you and kidnapping you - I'm sorry if we did that you would start to get upset saying "oh typical gang behaviour cant do a traffic stop without escalating to guns being pointed - we did not point a gun we boxed you in so our member could get away, realised who you were and you were asked to stop which you shut down all roleplay to get a chase.
Again, please do not mis-quote what I have said. Let's not talk about what-ifs or hypertheticals when reviewing a report which actions have been taking in the past. I merely stated an example to paint a picture for context stating words to the effect of using alternatives such as displaying firearms etc if your intentions were to kidnap me. Again, this didn't happen and I think that no matter your intentions as a white-listed gang this could have been dealt with much better and prevent poor RP which I am under the belief contravened rulebreaks and so do others present. Saying I would be upset at this I don't think has any relevance but I can only say you have assumed wrong
"Midway through you saying how bad Coalition RP was you have other police and staff saying this in the VC text channel:"
And myself included and you know this so please don't try to paint a hostile picture, there was discussion held and all points were address with ample time. Your gang does provide a higher standard of RP in comparison to others as I experienced earlier within the day. However, this sitation in my and others eyes was poor and I expect better personally.
"We chased you for a reason as you said your character is a dickhead; you acted like one earlier on in the day which is why we tried to stop you. We do not do this on every traffic stop. This wasn't a "fuck feds lets just chase and shoot them cos they stopped us"
Fair enough if there is an RP reason behind your actions, atleast next time display it. There was little to no verbal engagement or interaction / RP at all provided by anyone present and this prevents us as officers who were trying to provide RP little to no options as shown. If you generally feel as if I was baiting that is a shame and this wasn't raised in liason room. At the end of the day I am RPing as an officer so it is obvious as to why I was interacting / taking chase of specific vehicles which have commited offences however when this escalated is when I decided to evade etc and attempt to go back to MRPD which is verbally indicated as well however was not completed as I explained in liason. I personally do not think there is an issue with any of my actions personally as there was an RP justification for all of them taken which again I can address or clarify accordingly given the circumstances outlined in the videos.
"False comms to officers to incorrectly escalate the reponse from PD towards us". Where?
If there are any perspectives / POVs from your members I would be intrigued to see as to see the attempted RP behind the actions displayed but I don't want to keep reiterating my original points as I already feel like a broken record.
If there is anything else that needs to be addressed please let me know accordingly.
