Report a player - Omz - GTA RP

[Maverick Delta]

Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Maverick Delta
Reported Players: Omz
Date: Nov 21, 2025
Time: 03:45
What best describes this incident: G2.12: Poor Quality Roleplay, G4.3: When you respawn and NLR applies, G7.3: Executions, C1.4: Harassment
Please (in detail) describe the incident: Context:
This incident started on the 16th when Omz decided to try "Hands" me down Grove Street. I drove off which caused me to get shot at, I returned a minute later where I then got kicked off my bike and tackled by Omz. This caused to to grab a gun and chase down Omz as he drove off in a van. I shot Oms and when I got to the vehicle it was locked and his passenger (Still alive) didn't have keys. I went to stash the gun before I returned to Omz where I saw his vehicle driving so somehow they managed to get out the vehicle and picklock it or they called someone down however I saw nobody in the area. I then decided to hide and wait until they was out of the van to run and try steal said van.

I then got chased where I enter Auto Exotic. Duncan Andris was in the area and came in to see what was going on where he unknowingly let one of Omz's friends in who shot me. Duncan then decided (After realising the van had 8 crates inside) to help me and downed Omz's friend. I then got taken to pillbox where Duncan stole the crates. When I came out of pillbox Omz (Clearly angry) decided to run straight up to me with a knife trying to attack me with no regards for G4.5 however I just drove away.

Sometime during this situation I received the first abusive message where he tried calling me to QE, then said "I aint jokin go fuck ur mom"

https://i.gyazo.com/1ac8db7c0833bfc5444346a782759dfb.png

The Next Day:
I was again driving down Grove Street where Omz tried to rob me while fueling my bike. However the second I saw him I drove off where I then got shot at. I then decided to get a gun and try fight Omz where it then became a shootout which I lost as he got others to back him up. He then decided to take me to the dodgy doctor where I ended up dying and where the situation should end...

I then receive this message on discord where Omz starts off trying to Ego what happened and when I respond I get told to "go kill ur self". Additionally I make a comment regarding the "Beef" ending as I was killed off, which he then claims the beef is still going and implied he will keep robbing me and somewhat implies he is going to pocket wipe me.

https://i.gyazo.com/6b1f009e33745244f7e897986c5c3532.png

I then DM him trying to calm him down and stop threating things that will wind up getting him banned however he told me to "fuck ur fam". He then keeps going on that he will keep robbing me trying to get the value of his crates back or "Im takin every thing u have in ur pocket". He then implies because I bleed out that the situation doesn't end.

https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/b4dbb281782bef3ec8ff034dcbbb7762-png.jpg

Over the days since I died in the situation I have had people asking me why Omz is looking for Duncan and I (I found out that Duncan has also been killed off by Omz yet is still getting targeted). To me he is clearly targeting us in retaliation and no regards for roleplay.

Today's Situation:
I just logged onto the server and run up the road on Grove Street to see members of Grove Street & Vagos having a meeting. They finish up and some Vagos members run away. I have a small interaction with Harry then get meet by Omz (Then found out to be the Vagos members from just before) trying to "Hands" me.

Due to people telling me that Omz is after me I have often been going around with nothing on me to avoid fulling Omz ego (Duncan has done similar to avoid getting pocket wiped). When Omz searched me he even giggles knowing what I had done. He then ran straight away.

Knowing there was Grove Members in the area that *Could* back me I ran over to Omz bike and when I saw their guns had been put away I kicked their bike before running away. They chased me and shot me until I died which is ok. However he then decided to put me in the back of a car and from then on out they failed to give me the smallest amount of RP when they took me to a location to dump me which is where the poor quality RP comes from.

Ontop of the main reason of the report (Poor quality RP of the dumping) I fail to see after the countless OOC threats and messages saying he is going to target and pocket wipe me and how multiple people have said he is actively hunting Duncan and I that this is a random robbery and is actually Omz targeting me for a situation he is still angry about despite actively killing me off from it.
Link(s) To Any Evidence: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/lyaqDdRI99HU6rcyL?invite=cr-MSxyRmEsMjc2ODczMg&v=432

 

[JackJohnson]

@Tr1GGeR- I believe this is you?

 

[Tr1GGeR-]

Hello @Maverick, I'm sorry to see that it has come to a report but here we are. And sorry for late reply

This incident started on the 16th when Omz decided to try "Hands" me down Grove Street. I drove off which caused me to get shot at, I returned a minute later where I then got kicked off my bike and tackled by Omz.

Since when I was in Grove we were joking around, me pointing a gun at someone and sayin "lemme see some hands", throwing punches and stuff like that (gonna put some clips at the end). Back to the night when "IT STARTED" we were crafting some pistol bullets, I saw Maverick and I approached and asked "You got any pb's to sell", you said "No" and knowing the connection we had back in grove doing funny stuff I said my favorite phrase "lemme see some hands" (of course wasn't trying to rob Maverick) Maverick drove off I then shot a bullet it might seem I intended to hit you but NO, I thought you didn't mind it but, you went to your home to get the sns, knowing I have a gun and my mate has a gun you took your sns came back to the place we were, when you returned I tried to keep a distance with you, thought you might do something and didn't want to get pillboxed. Seeing you actions made me think you didn't mind it at all what I did before and went to tackle you, after I tackled you started saying "Give me a cuddle" I didn't want to give it to you, you grabbed the bike and I kicked you out of it just to mess with you like we used to do, knowing I don't have pistol bullets I pulled the gun aimed at you and started pulling the trigger, you grabed the bike and tried to kick me after that you left, we got into the van. You started following us and after a while being followed, no words said Maverick started shouting "BANG BANG BANG" and killed me.

The clip where Maverick killed me: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/lw8NAHT3A7OE_6Uhb?invite=cr-MSxMWEYsMzI4NDgwMzAx&v=410

So after he killed me at that time I was very angry the only thing I didn't want to happen happened and couldn't chill off, and Duncan and his friends came, they didn't had lockpick went to buy it lockpicked the van and they left, my mate grabbed me and tried to send me in pillbox, he called Fade to let him know what happened and we might get to mines a bit late. I want to translate something what Madz was talking with Fade in Albanian to be more clear with you. At 0:58 Madz calls Fade (he was at mines) and asked him "Do you have a gun?", and got his answer and said "Okay" at that time Maverick came and took the van. Madz called Fade again to let him know that Maverick took the van and it wasn't over so that's why Fade was seen at AE.

I went to stash the gun before I returned to Omz where I saw his vehicle driving so somehow they managed to get out the vehicle and picklock it or they called someone down however I saw nobody in the area. I then decided to hide and wait until they was out of the van to run and try steal said van.

But Maverick had other plans he left his sns in his home and came after us, as I mentioned earlier that he knew the other one had a gun too but he wasn't scared about his life. He grabbed the van said nothing and left towards AE. Me still keeping that good connection we had, said to him "Come on I got things to do" but yet he didn't talked at all the only words we heard from Maverick was the time he shot me. After driving around AE he entered there and closed the doors, Duncan arrives and says to him "Wait omz is dead inside of the car still, are you not taking him pillbox" and you answered with "I'm trying to do but someone is following me", you knew he was my friend and he was trying to take me pillbox before you stealing the van. My friend asked "What are you doing bro" again your response was "I'm trying to take him pillbox" and my friend being at the spot you killed me he knew something was off and decided to shoot you. Duncan asked him "Why are you shooting inside the AE" but my question to you guys is "Why are you robbing inside the AE" and using the AE's key to close the door and robbing inside. When Duncan asked "Did you kill him" us telling them the truth "Yes" but you said "No" and Duncan killed my friend, there I lost my mind was angry and fuming, called you QE you didn't response, I know I made a mistake what I typed in OOC but at that time I couldn't handle myself. Saw you in a discord voice call so I entered and started to ask you "What are you doing?" you were laughing and answered "What am I doing?" so a question answered by a question, hearing you laughing answers my question which means you accomplished what you wanted (Trolling and Rage baiting).

The clip after Maverick's kill: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/lw8Wbdn8Ikd-Wg7RP?invite=cr-MSxYNVksMzI4NDgwMzAx&v=383

The Next Day:
I was again driving down Grove Street where Omz tried to rob me while fueling my bike. However the second I saw him I drove off where I then got shot at. I then decided to get a gun and try fight Omz where it then became a shootout which I lost as he got others to back him up. He then decided to take me to the dodgy doctor where I ended up dying and where the situation should end...

I had made a repair deal with Grove and I went there to take the gun, when I saw you I started following you towards the gas station so I can rob you, after that you saw us pointing a gun at you, you drove off and you did the same thing. Went to get a gun (even that you were by yourself against 3 armed gang members), after I got my broken gun back I let grove know that I'm going to rob you whenever I see you. We saw Blueface and went to talk to him about what happened inside AE, asked him is it allowed for a mechanic to close the doors and rob inside AE. He responded with "I need some proofs if you have some send it to me and they can't be robbing inside AE" (greenzone kinda thing) after we talk for a while you came down and provoked us by stopping there and see what we might do (knowing we got guns and we tried to hands you like 10mins before) I saw you and went straight to pointing a gun at you saying "Hands up" you started driving off and I pulled the trigger towards you. A small chase happened but I got called in QE by Duncan and we sort it out, while I was in QE with Duncan you were car fighting with Madz and Fade, which lead to you getting down. We sent you dodgy and you died there. I didn't want to continue the situation cuz it ended there and we all know. What I said in discord wasn't applied into RP. We went in a rob night with some other friends we didn't targeted Duncan or Maverick we started robbing everyone there.

The clip of me mentioning I'm going to rob Maverick: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/lyQaOdRcSIOzVi6qi?invite=cr-MSx4UmIsMzI4NDgwMzAx&v=30
The clip of Maverick not roleplaying injuries at Dodgy: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/lyQWF3gJIcCieCaSD?invite=cr-MSxBSnUsMzI4NDgwMzAx&v=295

Today's Situation:
I just logged onto the server and run up the road on Grove Street to see members of Grove Street & Vagos having a meeting. They finish up and some Vagos members run away. I have a small interaction with Harry then get meet by Omz (Then found out to be the Vagos members from just before) trying to "Hands" me.

So talking about this day. We Albos wanted to make a deal with Grove, we went there to put an order. You saw us and knowing you have nothing on you, you started trolling joining the meeting even you weren't supposed to be there but, you wanted to achieve something, after we took off I said "Should we hands Maverick" of course just to rob you not bringing back the situation what happened before you died at dodgy (You forgot but we didn't that doesn't mean we can't rob you, you can't start and end a beef whenever you want). And guess what we did? We pointed at you 3 guns, when I saw you had nothing I wanted to spare your life but you squared up at me 02:08 on the clip below (having 2 guns pointed at you), still Madz and Fade didn't shoot there.

Knowing there was Grove Members in the area that *Could* back me I ran over to Omz bike and when I saw their guns had been put away I kicked their bike before running away. They chased me and shot me until I died which is ok.

What made you think Grove Members Could back you off? When you ain't a Grove Member and you kicked the bike making me fall from it after getting your hands up. AGAIN knowing we are strapped up maybe you had nothing on your pockets but you had a life that needed to be taken cared off and yet you failed for that. My question to you is "Do you care about this RP or you just want to troll and rage bait people?"

However he then decided to put me in the back of a car and from then on out they failed to give me the smallest amount of RP when they took me to a location to dump me which is where the poor quality RP comes from.

After what you did there kicking my bike, when u got killed I wanted to dump you the reason was we spared your life once you didn't care about your life and why should I not dump you but give you a second chance, and yeah what kind of RP did you expect from that incident?

The clip where Maverick NVL'd: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/lyR9IBfVagioslIMt?invite=cr-MSxDSUssMzI4NDgwMzAx&v=198

The clips of me and Maverick joking around:
https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/lyfnCBqziGS0v2Nwv?invite=cr-MSxGTGMsMzI4NDgwMzAx&v=99
https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/lyeq8MSIHiD-xEd8k?invite=cr-MSxCbEEsMzI4NDgwMzAx&v=174
https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/lyfHa5pMvd5CacYAS?invite=cr-MSxocHcsMzI4NDgwMzAx&v=22
and I got some other clips which i dont want to share for other reasons

At the end I just wanted to say after everything I talked about,i think you broke some rules too:
C1.10 Trolling
G2.4 Value of Life
G2.12 Poor Quality Roleplay (not talking till the kill)
G1.2 Random Death Match (RDM)

 

[Maverick Delta]

I'll try keep this on the shorter side, I don't want this going off track there is no need for staff to spend a day reading through this report.

Since when I was in Grove we were joking around, me pointing a gun at someone and sayin "lemme see some hands", throwing punches and stuff like that (gonna put some clips at the end). Back to the night when "IT STARTED" we were crafting some pistol bullets, I saw Maverick and I approached and asked "You got any pb's to sell", you said "No" and knowing the connection we had back in grove doing funny stuff I said my favorite phrase "lemme see some hands" (of course wasn't trying to rob Maverick) Maverick drove off I then shot a bullet it might seem I intended to hit you but NO, I thought you didn't mind it but, you went to your home to get the sns, knowing I have a gun and my mate has a gun you took your sns came back to the place we were, when you returned I tried to keep a distance with you, thought you might do something and didn't want to get pillboxed. Seeing you actions made me think you didn't mind it at all what I did before and went to tackle you, after I tackled you started saying "Give me a cuddle" I didn't want to give it to you, you grabbed the bike and I kicked you out of it just to mess with you like we used to do, knowing I don't have pistol bullets I pulled the gun aimed at you and started pulling the trigger, you grabed the bike and tried to kick me after that you left, we got into the van. You started following us and after a while being followed, no words said Maverick started shouting "BANG BANG BANG" and killed me.

This is true, but you was the one shot me. Joke or not you started hostile situation by shooting me therefore like any gunfight I have the opportunity to return fire. My choice to wait until 2-3 mins later despite having more aggravating factors in the middle doesn't change this.

But Maverick had other plans he left his sns in his home and came after us, as I mentioned earlier that he knew the other one had a gun too but he wasn't scared about his life. He grabbed the van said nothing and left towards AE. Me still keeping that good connection we had, said to him "Come on I got things to do" but yet he didn't talked at all the only words we heard from Maverick was the time he shot me. After driving around AE he entered there and closed the doors, Duncan arrives and says to him "Wait omz is dead inside of the car still, are you not taking him pillbox" and you answered with "I'm trying to do but someone is following me", you knew he was my friend and he was trying to take me pillbox before you stealing the van. My friend asked "What are you doing bro" again your response was "I'm trying to take him pillbox" and my friend being at the spot you killed me he knew something was off and decided to shoot you. Duncan asked him "Why are you shooting inside the AE" but my question to you guys is "Why are you robbing inside the AE" and using the AE's key to close the door and robbing inside. When Duncan asked "Did you kill him" us telling them the truth "Yes" but you said "No" and Duncan killed my friend, there I lost my mind was angry and fuming, called you QE you didn't response, I know I made a mistake what I typed in OOC but at that time I couldn't handle myself. Saw you in a discord voice call so I entered and started to ask you "What are you doing?" you were laughing and answered "What am I doing?" so a question answered by a question, hearing you laughing answers my question which means you accomplished what you wanted (Trolling and Rage baiting).

Who said I was robbing inside AE? Because this is not true. I drove into AE to repair the van and stop getting followed. However I find it had to see the corilation between repeating your question and finding your anger over a RP situation amusing as "Proof" my intention was to troll and or rage bait? Remember you instigated this situation when you told me to put my hands up and shot at me.

I had made a repair deal with Grove and I went there to take the gun, when I saw you I started following you towards the gas station so I can rob you, after that you saw us pointing a gun at you, you drove off and you did the same thing. Went to get a gun (even that you were by yourself against 3 armed gang members), after I got my broken gun back I let grove know that I'm going to rob you whenever I see you. We saw Blueface and went to talk to him about what happened inside AE, asked him is it allowed for a mechanic to close the doors and rob inside AE. He responded with "I need some proofs if you have some send it to me and they can't be robbing inside AE" (greenzone kinda thing) after we talk for a while you came down and provoked us by stopping there and see what we might do (knowing we got guns and we tried to hands you like 10mins before) I saw you and went straight to pointing a gun at you saying "Hands up" you started driving off and I pulled the trigger towards you. A small chase happened but I got called in QE by Duncan and we sort it out, while I was in QE with Duncan you were car fighting with Madz and Fade, which lead to you getting down. We sent you dodgy and you died there. I didn't want to continue the situation cuz it ended there and we all know. What I said in discord wasn't applied into RP. We went in a rob night with some other friends we didn't targeted Duncan or Maverick we started robbing everyone there.

I fail to believe this last part as in the days since I had bleed out I had people coming up to me asking why Omz is looking for Duncan and I, can you explain why people got this impression if you wasn't targeting us? Considering even after I got dumped the final time I had you tagging me in discord with a clip of you shooting me, hardly the actions of a random robbery.

So talking about this day. We Albos wanted to make a deal with Grove, we went there to put an order. You saw us and knowing you have nothing on you, you started trolling joining the meeting even you weren't supposed to be there but, you wanted to achieve something, after we took off I said "Should we hands Maverick" of course just to rob you not bringing back the situation what happened before you died at dodgy (You forgot but we didn't that doesn't mean we can't rob you, you can't start and end a beef whenever you want). And guess what we did? We pointed at you 3 guns, when I saw you had nothing I wanted to spare your life but you squared up at me 02:08 on the clip below (having 2 guns pointed at you), still Madz and Fade didn't shoot there.

Do you honestly think anyone belives this is a random robbery??? You just joined Vargos a gang which has just come back to the server and is beefing others alreadt and are trying to get establish and build connections and get assets. Nobody would while on the turf a moment out of a meeting with a gang you are trying to build a connection with suddenly see someone and be so desperate to rob them. Firstly it's rare gang members would just rob on a gang turf infront of said gang members but when they just came out of a meeting trying to make a deal! Unlikley.

Secondly it isn't trolling me joining in a meeting, I walked down my road and saw people talking to I walked up to them, nobody told me I wasn't supposed to be there... That's not my issue.

What made you think Grove Members Could back you off? When you ain't a Grove Member and you kicked the bike making me fall from it after getting your hands up. AGAIN knowing we are strapped up maybe you had nothing on your pockets but you had a life that needed to be taken cared off and yet you failed for that. My question to you is "Do you care about this RP or you just want to troll and rage bait people?"

I started Grove street like 5 1/2 years ago now, I have been in Grove countless times over the course of that time it is fair to say I have a good reputation in grove. Now yes I am not currently in grove and won't protect me like one of their own, but that being said there are countless times where Grove have infact protected me whether that is from other gang members or police. Additionally I waited till all guns where away and there was no immediate threat to my life for me to take me chance. Therefore in accordance with the NVL Guideline "Are there players in ear shot that may intervene if you begin the hostile interaction?" & "Has the victim's location been broadcast". I feel that within this instance the immediate threat to my life and there was multiple Grove in the area that COULD intervene which from my history they often do, I don't feel that this was NVL.

After what you did there kicking my bike, when u got killed I wanted to dump you the reason was we spared your life once you didn't care about your life and why should I not dump you but give you a second chance, and yeah what kind of RP did you expect from that incident?

100% agree with your decision to dump me that is not in doubt, my issue is you put me in the boot of a car and dumped my with 0 RP, if you want to dump me that is fine but make it enjoyable for people don't sit there in silence while dumping someone.


Conclusion:
Although I respect the effort you have put into the response all you have really done is respond with your POV of the situation and try point out what I have done oppose to defend what has been reported. Trolling if your opinion but remember you started each of these situations, I never chose to get "handsed" I have previously explained why I don't belive my action where NVL when in acordance with the NVL guidelines, that being said Staff feel free to pose any questions or counter points if you belive it was. Poor Quality RP, well you chose to shoot me, tackle me, try ram me off my bike... I shot you, what do you want me to sugar coat it. Finnaly RDM??? Where, When, what? All situations here started with you pointing a gun at me? I hardly RDMed you considering you shot at me. I cannot shoot someone then claim its RDM because at a later date I deem it "A Joke to say my favourite phrase "lemme see some hands"".

Overall I value your detailed response however you have failed to pose any real argument to my main factors of the report:

G2.12: Poor Quality Roleplay, G7.3: Executions: When you chose to dump me for the 2nd time why was nothing said or any attempt to roleplay made?

C1.4: Harassment: Why did you feel it nessisary to send vile messages to me OOC? And when I DM you in private to try calm you down you use that as another opportunity to throw vile insults.

G4.3: When you respawn and NLR applies: How do you really expect me to belive this is a random attack when you just come out of a meeting trying to make a deal and decide to rob me on the same turf after days of OOC messages telling me you are going to continue pocket wiping me despite being dead in that situation?


Too keep it simpler for the staff having to read all this, if you could answer these final questions and raise your issues with my actions. I sure all party's you, staff and I all don't want to read through pages of quoting every message sent.

 

[Tr1GGeR-]

Will respond soon

 

[Tr1GGeR-]

I'll try keep this on the shorter side, I don't want this going off track there is no need for staff to spend a day reading through this report.

It's not going off track just because it's explained in details, I think staff would like to see some details and clips.

This is true, but you was the one shot me. Joke or not you started hostile situation by shooting me therefore like any gunfight I have the opportunity to return fire

It wasn't the first time I shot you, even when I was in Grove pill boxed each other but, you wanted to start something which I didn't have a thought. And I took a month or two months break because I had stuff to do outside RP, when I came back I joined Vagos and having that good connection with Grove I believed it was a good connection even with Maverick like we can still joke around but, no it wasn't.

Another clip me shooting Maverick while I was in Grove: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/lzFtf4mAIxkdojhSd?invite=cr-MSxSSVAsMzI4NDgwMzAx&v=27

Who said I was robbing inside AE? Because this is not true. I drove into AE to repair the van and stop getting followed.

Of course no one gonna say "Guys I'm gonna rob inside AE" but after you went AE closed the doors, Duncan came with his friend who also has keys for AE doors he opened the door and they got inside which let my friend inside also.

Duncan then decided (After realising the van had 8 crates inside) to help me and downed Omz's friend.

So you were at AE when Duncan realized the van had 8 crates inside and decided to send you pillbox and rob the creates so AE was a place the rob started.

The clip where Duncan says "We are rich": https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/lzFTgulIfoX6gXDTr?invite=cr-MSxMUGwsMzI4NDgwMzAx&v=21
an image checking what's inside the creates: https://i.gyazo.com/384fe16fe8671377326489e3f602edc8.png

I fail to believe this last part as in the days since I had bleed out I had people coming up to me asking why Omz is looking for Duncan and I, can you explain why people got this impression if you wasn't targeting us?

I don't really believe that or they didn't knew you died at dodgy, we didn't rob you for like 3 days to be extremely correct you bleed out at dodgy 18 Nov and we didn't rob you even we saw you until 21 Nov, that day we made a drug order with Grove and you joined the meeting even wasn't supposed to be there, seeing you there we made a decision to rob you (again we remember but you don't so, we just rob you not bringing the box situation back).

Nobody would while on the turf a moment out of a meeting with a gang you are trying to build a connection with suddenly see someone and be so desperate to rob them. Firstly it's rare gang members would just rob on a gang turf infront of said gang members but when they just came out of a meeting trying to make a deal!

We had the connection with Grove we also had meetings before that day. You can see the clip where we told Grove if we see Maverick we gonna rob him, after we ordered Madz and Fade got invited to the groupies so for the next time we order from there. Knowing that we told Grove if we see you we gonna rob you I said on radio "Should we hands Maverick?". Yeah you are correct it would be bad to rob you in front of their turf but, as you can see the clip we let them know and it was cool for them.

I feel that within this instance the immediate threat to my life and there was multiple Grove in the area that COULD intervene which from my history they often do, I don't feel that this was NVL.

So because Maverick got saved by Grove, that doesn't mean Maverick can kick my bike while we spared Maverick's life. So knowing Grove would've sent you pillbox, Maverick didn't care getting shot at?

G2.12: Poor Quality Roleplay,

I don't think it really was a PQR reason knowing our connection we had, of course you joke around people you like to be close with, pulling out the gun, hands them, etc..

G7.3: Executions: When you chose to dump me for the 2nd time why was nothing said or any attempt to roleplay made?

As I said you not caring for you life and kicking the bike made me dump you in a silence and Omz mentality is to get rid of the body quick.

C1.4: Harassment: Why did you feel it nessisary to send vile messages to me OOC? And when I DM you in private to try calm you down you use that as another opportunity to throw vile insults.

At that time I held myself until Duncan killed my friend at AE, there I lost it all and typed in OOC I know it was a bad thing and I apologise about that. Also what was said in discord wasn't applied in RP.

G4.3: When you respawn and NLR applies: How do you really expect me to belive this is a random attack when you just come out of a meeting trying to make a deal and decide to rob me on the same turf after days of OOC messages telling me you are going to continue pocket wiping me despite being dead in that situation?

We remembered everything that Maverick and Duncan stole our crates, both of you dying and forgetting everything didn't mean we can't rob you at all. We just didn't mentioned the box situation.


I'm not gonna reply anymore if staff has any question I'm happy to reply.

 

[Maverick Delta]

Hello Omz,

I am going to be honest I really don't see the need for the back on fourth of all the context as I added it to give staff background. I don't understand how shooting me previously as a joke is of any benefit to this report.

I don't really believe that or they didn't knew you died at dodgy, we didn't rob you for like 3 days to be extremely correct you bleed out at dodgy 18 Nov and we didn't rob you even we saw you until 21 Nov, that day we made a drug order with Grove and you joined the meeting even wasn't supposed to be there, seeing you there we made a decision to rob you (again we remember but you don't so, we just rob you not bringing the box situation back).

So unfortunately a reason you wasn't able to rob me sooner and one of the reasons I posted the report is because I was barley logging on knowing I was just going to get "Handsed" & Pocket wiped the second you saw me, proven on the 21st when I was barley on the server 3 minuets before you decided to rob me the second you saw me.

However that being said can I ask what you mean when you say "to be extremely correct you bleed out at dodgy 18 Nov and we didn't rob you even we saw you until 21 Nov, that day we made a drug order with Grove and you joined the meeting even wasn't supposed to be there, seeing you there we made a decision to rob you (again we remember but you don't so, we just rob you not bringing the box situation back)."
Can you elaborate what you mean by this? Because any previous issues you had with myself ended and the person that died at dodgy considering you have posted many videos claiming to be joking around with me, what other reason do you have to target me so much? Surely if the crate situation was removed you would go back to joking around or neutral not robbing me whenever you see me?

We had the connection with Grove we also had meetings before that day. You can see the clip where we told Grove if we see Maverick we gonna rob him, after we ordered Madz and Fade got invited to the groupies so for the next time we order from there. Knowing that we told Grove if we see you we gonna rob you I said on radio "Should we hands Maverick?". Yeah you are correct it would be bad to rob you in front of their turf but, as you can see the clip we let them know and it was cool for them.

I understand that Grove said its none of their business but that was all, it makes no logical scense to come straight out of a meeting to go straight to trying to hands someone, the only reason you would be in the mindset to do it so quickly is if you was targeting said person. I feel that a lot of this is excuses thought of after the fact oppose to the real reason in the moment.

So because Maverick got saved by Grove, that doesn't mean Maverick can kick my bike while we spared Maverick's life. So knowing Grove would've sent you pillbox, Maverick didn't care getting shot at?

Not at all, what I am saying is that based of that logic I fail to believe this to be NVL.

As I said you not caring for you life and kicking the bike made me dump you in a silence and Omz mentality is to get rid of the body quick.

Right so anyone that kicks you off their bike is going to be meet with the same treatment of dumping them in scilence? Is that the quality of roleplay you are saying you strive to achieve???

At that time I held myself until Duncan killed my friend at AE, there I lost it all and typed in OOC I know it was a bad thing and I apologise about that. Also what was said in discord wasn't applied in RP.

This might be so but getting told to "kill myself" imo really doesn't matter what you take into RP... That is too far I am afraid and it crossed a line. Angry or not there is no need for that.

We remembered everything that Maverick and Duncan stole our crates, both of you dying and forgetting everything didn't mean we can't rob you at all. We just didn't mentioned the box situation.

Again with these same comment around "Just because you died doesn't mean we forget"...


Again to conclude;

You keep saying you remember the situation, and frankly this isn't a justification to target me, to me this only proved your intent to keep robbing me randomly to take your anger out and fails to back up the lie of random robberys.

And I really am quite conserned about comments like "kicking the bike made me dump you in a silence and Omz mentality is to get rid of the body quick."

There is no excuse to provide 0 roleplay, if you want to just shoot and dump then this isn't the place. Everything needs to have quality roleplay behind it your "mentality" doesn't change that... your mentality needs to change.

Same as Omz I am happy for staff deal with this/ ask whatever questions they need, its not fair on them to have to read pages of bickering about aspect non important to the main reported rule breaks.

 

[JackJohnson]

Let's get this one squared away lads, there's already been more than enough time for you both to get your points across including a whole lot of irrelevant information honestly.

@Tr1GGeR- Firstly, if you have an issue with someone and you kill/dump them, the common sense thing to do is consider that issue finished - that's the choice you make when you dump them. If it's group v group conflict that's different as it involves a lot of people and the issues between groups aren't resolved the same, however this is clearly an issue between you and Maverick not an issue between Vagos and Grove. You killed him and dumped him, then began messaging him OOC with a load of nonsense that you should have never done, then decided to continue targetting him in game. Yes - it does amount to poor quality RP as far as I'm concerned & no I don't for a second believe that you are treating them as two separate situations. You have dumped him, then specifically decided to target him after telling him OOC you are going to do exactly that.

Do I believe Maverick probably approached the meeting on Grove street knowing you are there? Maybe he did, I don't know, but considering you had already made the choice yourself to kill and dump him, there shouldn't really have been an issue with that - again Omz, you are the one that decided to make the issue and carry on targeting him after you'd already killed and dumped him.

Omz I don't believe what you have said to him in discord fully amounts to harassment, consider yourself lucky on that as it would have been a perm ban - however just so we are clear, if your in game situations with people play on your nerves that much that you aren't able to control your emotions, and find yourself message abuse to other players on Discord you will quite quickly find yourself perm banned from the server, so sort it out. I will be putting this down as C1.3 OOC abuse on this occasion, however next time you won't get away with it so easy.

Also just to address the concerns you raised Omz about Maverick breaking rules after you robbed him on Grove St the 2nd time, no I do not believe him killing you off the bike amounts to RDM or anything similar, you had literally just attempted to rob him 30 seconds before it.

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