Report a player - Zak ZirkZee (Zino) - 569 - GTA RP

[MartinSmith]

Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Martin Smith
Reported Players: Zak ZirkZee (Zino) - 569
Date: May 13, 2025
Time: 21:45
What best describes this incident: G2.4 - NVL and G1.5 - Powergaming
Please (in detail) describe the incident: Yet again another Hustler NVL, there's three things guaranteed in life: Death, Taxes and Hustler NVL'ing.

Me and Cutlass members were looking for the hiding Hustlers when we passed the Church, spinning back we went to check the blacked out guy within the Slavs. We saw Zino move at timestamp 1:15 of the first medal clip linked. However when we pulled up, confirmed he wasn't a Slav and went to talk to him, he was mysteriously "In head". being suspicious of his motives we pretended to leave the area, pulling back up when he began to move again (Coincidently shortly after we left) and asked him questions before pointing guns leading to the NVL. There were more than 3 guns pointed at him, and several cars in the area, it was simply common sense that he wasn't going to get out of the sit alive. Despite this he still made the decision to not value his life.

To put it simply, its getting infuriating that the Hustlers have been doing the most to avoid RP, going to the extreme of consistently breaking the rules. He very evidently, intentionally faked being his head to avoid having to roleplay with us then followed by NVL'ing despite having several guns pointed at him. Regardless of whether he could visibly see the guns, its impossible for him to claim that he didnt know he was completely at a disadvantage considering the number of us circling the area and surrounding him.

The first medal clip is the full length of the situation from Posh's point of view
[Edit] - The second medal clip is footage of me attempting to communicate with zino.
Link(s) To Any Evidence: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/khrnGf6aNZJi5i8lk?invite=cr-MSxXM3QsMjAwOTU3Mzg5 https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/khrQ6nyWq_Mb78TeW?invite=cr-MSxRZzksMzc2NjMwNjU1

 

[_Zino]

Yet again another Hustler NVL, there's three things guaranteed in life: Death, Taxes and Hustler NVL'ing.

This comment was really unnecessary, if you want to bring this to the forums you should focus on the matter at hand and not these type of sly remarks trying to sway a decision based on previous situations that have no relevance.

he was mysteriously "In head".

Moving on, I had just logged into the server at the church around a couple mins before this. I said hello to the slavs and said ill brb as I went for a piss. After seeing your clip this is when I wasnt responding. As soon as I get back around 1-2mins later you pull up again. (1-2mins is how long it takes to have a piss). Once I get back I have no problem with interacting whatsoever. I am seen moving and talking. It was just bad timing.

There were more than 3 guns pointed at him, and several cars in the area, it was simply common sense that he wasn't going to get out of the sit alive. Despite this he still made the decision to not value his life.

From my angle I didn't see any guns being pointed at me, I believe this is a stretch. I made a quick rushed decision to stab the person I saw pulling out a weapon. I "feared for my life" as soon as I had seen you reach for your revolver. I took the chance to quickly stab you.

To put it simply, its getting infuriating that the Hustlers have been doing the most to avoid RP

This is nowhere near to avoid RP, the rp was there. You could've taken me to a dodgy doctor and continued it, medical rp etc. I was stuffed in a boot without any words being said. I was then transferred into a locals boot and thrown into the water. The only reason you didn't dodgy me was because I didn't have a gun on me. The rp was still possible from there.

Regardless of whether he could visibly see the guns, its impossible for him to claim that he didnt know he was completely at a disadvantage considering the number of us circling the area and surrounding him.

Prior to me coming back from a piss, I didn't know that all the people involved was cutlass.

Quite frankly to be honest with you I am rather shocked to find this report has been made, I don't recall ever getting called to QE or ever being contacted to speak regarding this scene to clear anything up. Its quite evident from the many sly comments you have made in this report hinting at similar cases in the past that you seem to have some sort of animosity or vendetta towards not only possibly myself but the Hustler gang at a whole, I really hope this isn't the case as its not fair to think this way. This is at the end of the day a game and disagreements will happen, I would not have been opposed to at least try and explain this situation to you before we escalated to forums however. I was not given this chance thanks to what I believe is a straight up out of character hostility towards myself and other members of the Hustlers which just shouldn't be the case here.

 

[MartinSmith]

Hi zino, thank you for the reply
I find this situation all too coincidental and genuinely believe your avoiding the truth here. You were seen moving, but as soon as a cutlass convoy comes around the corner you suddenly halt and only move once all the cutlass cars are clear from the area. Your story of needing a piss doesn't make much sense to me, you loaded up the game (most likely aware that cutlass were looking since we had chased a Hustler member not long prior) approached the Slavs, and choose to go AFK standing in the middle of their RP situation. See, had I been in this position of needing to answer to nature's calling, it would've been the smarter option to instead: Go take a piss in the character selection screen, or at least had the common decency of moving away from the pack of Slavs before rudely going AFK mid their situation. Furthermore, almost instantaneously after you "finish pissing" you reach for your phone, possibly alerting Hustlers of the convoy you had just seen fly past you? A strange move for someone who was "In head".

I said hello to the slavs and said ill brb as I went for a piss.

Regarding this, I was lucky enough to have the Slav sessionheads saved, being: 358, 325 and 547. Sorry to ask for so much, but would it be possible for someone to get in contact with these to validify this claim? I feel this may be vital to revealing the truth.

From my angle I didn't see any guns being pointed at me, I believe this is a stretch. I made a quick rushed decision to stab the person I saw pulling out a weapon. I "feared for my life" as soon as I had seen you reach for your revolver. I took the chance to quickly stab you.

There is evidently more than 4-5 cars/people around you, I'm sure that you knew that cutlass were about as with what I said above, we not long before chased a hustler member through the city. You're not that stupid Zino mate.

This is nowhere near to avoid RP, the rp was there. You could've taken me to a dodgy doctor and continued it, medical rp etc. I was stuffed in a boot without any words being said. I was then transferred into a locals boot and thrown into the water. The only reason you didn't dodgy me was because I didn't have a gun on me. The rp was still possible from there.

I'm gona be honest, we did consider laying out some RP with you. talking to you longer on the floor or taking you to pill and talking to you there, however I think the whole group was just generally annoyed at your prior decisions. We didn't take pictures or try outwardly boast to Hustler members of the fact as we were simply angry at the choice you made and the lack of RP you provided. If you had not acted irresponsibly within the situation, I'm sure you would have experienced the high level roleplay we attempt to give all Hustlers at all times.

Quite frankly to be honest with you I am rather shocked to find this report has been made, I don't recall ever getting called to QE or ever being contacted to speak regarding this scene to clear anything up. Its quite evident from the many sly comments you have made in this report hinting at similar cases in the past that you seem to have some sort of animosity or vendetta towards not only possibly myself but the Hustler gang at a whole, I really hope this isn't the case as its not fair to think this way. This is at the end of the day a game and disagreements will happen, I would not have been opposed to at least try and explain this situation to you before we escalated to forums

Unfortunately, despite the "Sly" nature of the comment I made, there is more than a nugget of truth behind it. Your actions yesterday was the fourth Hustler NVL report in the space of 3 days, this has undeniably become a trend. Yes, we didn't call you for a pointless back and forth in QE. For one, I would've thought that the 3 prior NVL reports regardless of whether they get accepted or not would have been a good reminder to stick to the rules and thus it gets to a point where the actions are so frequent that the QE would have done little to resolve the issue. And secondly, the attude of Hustlers OOC has been so appalling that, I doubt the QE session would have ended in anything over than a shouting match. The claim of me having a personal vendetta against you and the Hustler gang is laughable, I've had limited interactions with you IC and OOC and have nothing against you as a person, for the rest of the Hustlers, I have no vendetta against them at all. I rate a large majority of the Hustlers OOC and used to be good friends with and ex-gang members with some of them. The "Sly" comment was simply and attempt to emulate the attitude I have seen in previous hustler reports and replies such as Pablo's recent one and was done so in a moment of anger regarding another NVL rule break.

thanks to what I believe is a straight up out of character hostility towards myself and other members of the Hustlers which just shouldn't be the case here.

Put simply, this isn't the case here. Me and the other cutlass are all under agreement that we want to avoid a hostile environment OOC and all understand that in essence, its just a game. All hostilities towards Hustlers have been kept IC. However I cant say the same on the other hand. Me personally, I have several Hustlers blocked due to berating and toxic messages via discord and this is just further proven by the extent that an ex-Hustler member went to try insult me, via the deleted message that he sent on this and other threads. I've maintained a nothing but respectful attitude towards the Hustlers to no avail which is a further reason to why the call to QE was not dished out.

 

[_Zino]

Hi Martin,

Your story of needing a piss doesn't make much sense to me, you loaded up the game (most likely aware that cutlass were looking since we had chased a Hustler member not long prior) approached the Slavs, and choose to go AFK standing in the middle of their RP situation.

Yes it would've made more sense to go for a piss before but I didn't make that judgment. I didn't have a clue you lot were even about. Hence loading in at church and not being setup or anything.

and choose to go AFK standing in the middle of their RP situation.

I had just logged in and said hello, sometimes you still need to do things afk from just loading in, I think that's a pretty normal thing.

or at least had the common decency of moving away from the pack of Slavs before rudely going AFK mid their situation.

I wasn't in the middle of the pack either, i was a few metres away from where they were stood as seen in the clip.

There is evidently more than 4-5 cars/people around you, I'm sure that you knew that cutlass were about as with what I said above, we not long before chased a hustler member through the city. You're not that stupid Zino mate.

I will admit that I did cut the rp of being hands a bit short by a lack of judgement but I had seen a chance and took it. If staff believe the NVL rule was broken, I am more than happy to accept that.

I'm gona be honest, we did consider laying out some RP with you. talking to you longer on the floor or taking you to pill and talking to you there, however I think the whole group was just generally annoyed at your prior decisions. We didn't take pictures or try outwardly boast to Hustler members of the fact as we were simply angry at the choice you made and the lack of RP you provided. If you had not acted irresponsibly within the situation, I'm sure you would have experienced the high level roleplay we attempt to give all Hustlers at all times.

The rp from cutlass during this beef has been minimal, when downed or kidnapped the majority of your members stay quiet and dont intent to rp. This is just another interaction showing that. There were plenty of avenues to take for further rp even with the setback of me being downed, to which I was more than happy of doing.

we didn't call you for a pointless back and forth in QE

Usually I would take the person qe to hear them out a bit, I dont think we have interacted like this before so not sure why you are referring to others as if the outcome would be the same.

And secondly, the attude of Hustlers OOC has been so appalling that, I doubt the QE session would have ended in anything over than a shouting match.

Again it was only me that was involved in that situation so I still fail to see your point. And due to the fact you don't know me. Your just judging of others actions, seems a bit biased.

I've had limited interactions with you IC and OOC and have nothing against you as a person, for the rest of the Hustlers, I have no vendetta against them at all. I rate a large majority of the Hustlers OOC and used to be good friends with and ex-gang members with some of them. The "Sly" comment was simply and attempt to emulate the attitude I have seen in previous hustler reports and replies such as Pablo's recent one and was done so in a moment of anger regarding another NVL rule break.

As I have said the attitude you have brought with you to this report evidently shows the vendetta. You even said yourself we have limited to no interactions ic or OOC.

Put simply, this isn't the case here. Me and the other cutlass are all under agreement that we want to avoid a hostile environment OOC and all understand that in essence, its just a game. All hostilities towards Hustlers have been kept IC. However I cant say the same on the other hand. Me personally, I have several Hustlers blocked due to berating and toxic messages via discord and this is just further proven by the extent that an ex-Hustler member went to try insult me, via the deleted message that he sent on this and other threads. I've maintained a nothing but respectful attitude towards the Hustlers to no avail which is a further reason to why the call to QE was not dished out.

Again this has nothing to do with me or this situation.

Appreciate the reply.

 

[MartinSmith]

Hi Zino,
I think you've done a really good job at side-tracking this report, Ill quickly address your comments then return to the actual focus of the report, being the NVL and the power gaming. To put it briefly and reiterate my prior point, I have no vendetta towards you at all. As you even mentioned in your reply, I don't know you, I couldn't even recognise your voice. The comment I made was, as I mentioned before, written in a moment of anger regarding the rule break and "Sly" comments have not been intentionally repeated! You quite freely mention the "RP from [The whole of] Cutlass" being minimal yet see it as insulting when I equally judge Hustler RP (and lack off RP) as well as OOC behaviour as a collective. Furthermore I find this quite a silly remark, we've tried to maintain nothing but engaging RP for everyone we have interacted with, I'm sure Hustler Dave can vouch from the handy work we had him doing for us. Just a tad bit of constructive criticism, the immature remarks such as calling people "Good boys" and saying they "Stink" doesn't give us much to go off RP wise. If you want a greater reaction from Cutlass members possibly try spicing up and making your RP more creative and original!


Now focusing on the main content of the report:

I had just logged in and said hello, sometimes you still need to do things afk from just loading in, I think that's a pretty normal thing.

I wasn't in the middle of the pack either, i was a few metres away from where they were stood as seen in the clip.

I still fail to see the truth here and feel your memory might be slightly hazy regarding the events that unravelled, see in your first reply you directly mention telling the Slavs that you will "Brb" as you were taking a piss but after my inquisition into the validity of this you now purely greeted them and went into your head? Furthermore, you were pretty much standing in the pack of Slavs, it wasn't till you were moved via a glitch that you were at an unsociable distance. This can be seen in the clip I'll link below. Additionally after asking the Slavs to confirm they were all indeed Slavs they claimed that they didn't know who you were and it didn't sound at all like they had any interaction with you, claiming you had just flown in. See it may seem like I'm just nit-picking the situation, but your claims simply aren't adding up which understandably raises my suspicion.

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I will admit that I did cut the rp of being hands a bit short by a lack of judgement but I had seen a chance and took it. If staff believe the NVL rule was broken, I am more than happy to accept that.

I'm glad you've accepted responsibility of limiting the RP through your misjudgement, simply we just aim to provide high quality RP which becomes difficult when met with rule breaks and I'm sure you can sympathise with that. In my eyes its very evident NVL but as you mention its down to staff now. Unless asked to provided more clips (Which i will more than happily provide) or further questioning from staff I will leave this report here.

Sorry for the extensive writing and thank you to the staff team for reading through this.

 

[_Zino]

Hi Martin, how are you?

I think you've done a really good job at side-tracking this report, Ill quickly address your comments then return to the actual focus of the report, being the NVL and the power gaming. To put it briefly and reiterate my prior point, I have no vendetta towards you at all.

Not sure what you mean by side tracking this report... The only reason I turn to thinking you have a vendetta is because of the way you have gone about this report and the comments being made. Thats my view on it.

utlass" being minimal yet see it as insulting when I equally judge Hustler RP (and lack off RP) as well as OOC behaviour as a collective.

I was mainly referring to this incident. For example, just because of the setback of me being downed by gunshots doesnt mean the roleplay has to die there. Like I said before I think the only reason you wouldn't take me dodgy and carry on with the rp is because I didn't have a gun. In other words if I did have a gun I am sure you would've provided more rp.

Furthermore I find this quite a silly remark, we've tried to maintain nothing but engaging RP for everyone we have interacted with

Apologies, as I said I was meant to be referring to the situation at hand. This is how I want to come across during this report.

such as calling people "Good boys" and saying they "Stink" doesn't give us much to go off RP wise. If you want a greater reaction from Cutlass members possibly try spicing up and making your RP more creative and original!

Not sure what this has to do with me or this report.

I still fail to see the truth here and feel your memory might be slightly hazy regarding the events that unravelled, see in your first reply you directly mention telling the Slavs that you will "Brb" as you were taking a piss but after my inquisition into the validity of this you now purely greeted them and went into your head?

I usually log on at the church as it isn't too far away from turf and generally a decent spot. If needs be this can be checked in logs, as well as the call logs and messages I have between multiple slavs members. Not sure what you are trying to say with "purely greeted them and went into your head?". I cant recall the exact words I said but it was along the lines of "yoo what you man saying" back and forth with a couple slavs and then I said "one sec brb". That's what I can recall from this.

Additionally after asking the Slavs to confirm they were all indeed Slavs they claimed that they didn't know who you were and it didn't sound at all like they had any interaction with you, claiming you had just flown in. See it may seem like I'm just nit-picking the situation, but your claims simply aren't adding up which understandably raises my suspicion.

I am guessing you are speaking from when you asked them at this situation? It would make sense the slavs didn't say they knew me etc because you just pulled a load of guns out and they wouldn't want to get involved.

Furthermore, you were pretty much standing in the pack of Slavs, it wasn't till you were moved via a glitch that you were at an unsociable distance

When I first logged in I was standing near the bushes, walked to the slavs and then took a few steps back, I didn't even know I was hit with a bike until this clip. I had just thought you may of rammed me when I wasn't there.


Overall, I think this possibly could've been solved in QE. You have mentioned before that you may see it as back and forth with no outcome to which I disagree. Is this going to be how you treat every report? In my opinion, it seems as if you have an animosity against hustlers. Every time mentioning this you answer back with basically, hustlers have treated cutlass the same so that's why. You haven't really given me a reason as to why this wasn't called to qe to at least try and get an explanation of my thought process nor me going for a piss. I will mention that it doesn't have to go to QE but not having that friendly chat and discussion can encourage antagonistic OOC behaviour, or at least that's how it feels. For example: mentioning the problems you have with other members of the community which have nothing to do with me or this report.

Thanks for the reply, sorry for my late reply only just got through the door. Thanks in advance for the staffs help with dealing with this report.