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Report a Player - Zephy Bonjela - Other (Action Taken)

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LastNickLeft

"This Is the Way"
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London
Your In-game name

[TCK] LastNickLeft

Name of the player(s) you are reporting

Zephy Bonjela

Date of the incident

09/25/2017

Time of the incident (GMT)

2010

What best describes this incident ?

Other

Which server did the incident take place on

Server 1

Please (in detail) describe the incident

I and other members of my gang have logged on after 8 PM restart to transport gold stolen during an HM robbery to the Gold Buyer. Few minutes after us spawning in a red hatchback sport comes around, dropping a guy by our gate. We were after a long gunfight with Armed Response and decided to be very hostile to anyone who approaches u, considering that we have 300 gold bars ready to be transported. Let's leave aside the fact that guys from Fusion knew about the fact that we are transporting gold, I'm sure that they got this information in roleplay :) right?

I approached a guy by our base, requesting him to leave the area, or his I'll shoot his brains off. Zephy agreed to leave and I believe he said that if he gets shot, his friends will retaliate. At that point, he complied with my orders, and for me, there was no reason to deem him hostile, nor open fire at him. A short while after, the helicopter comes in for landing. We issue warning shots and focus on getting rid of just another intruder. At that point, I get shot down by Zephy.

I've talked to him about this in presence of a staff member and Zephy denies to be in wrong. The staff opinion I've received was very similar, no rules broken. I do personally think that this was extremely poor and it shouldn't have happened at all.

I'm also aware of recent updates and changes to initiations, however, I believe that when I've requested Zephy to do something and he agreed to do it, therefore I've had no right to do any other hostile actions against him. Then he proceeded on getting into cover and shooting me.
He also counter-initiated by saying ''If anything happens to me my friends will shoot you'', which is something we accepted and decided not make any hostile actions against him.

Due to the current rule state, it's very difficult for me to accuse Zephy from breaking a specific rule, however, from my point of view it was a very poor roleplay, RDM and mild baiting.

Things like this shouldn't happen, and if this behaviour is compliant with rules that our community adheres to, there should be a discussion about their current state.

Link to any evidence (Youtube/Screenshot)

https://youtu.be/OT8gjdU8rmY
This report is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!

Yes

You tried to resolve the situation with the player(s) before reporting

Yes

This is not a revenge report (Abuse will lead to forum/community bans)

Yes

 
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Lol, you got fragged. Also, the admin said it's not rdm etc and since he said could be baiting you added that in but you never called me out in ts for it, nice to know your out to get people banned.
Okay, look. I’ve been playing here on ALUK/RPUK since late 2015, as far as I’m aware I’ve reported roughly 2 or 3 people. I’m definetly not out there to get people banned, however, if I feel like something is wrong with a situation I have every right to put up a report. But you can think that if you want 

 
Hi @LastNickLeft

I understand your frustrations.

Technically, once you've threatened someone's life, they are able to defend themselves or retaliate so long as they have a valid RP reason, stay in close proximity and the period between them being threatened and retaliating is relatively short.  In other-words, leaving the area and coming back later is not acceptable.  It's not that black and white however, and as an RP community, every action must have a good, valid RP reason behind it. Whilst the RDM rule wasn't 'technically' broken here as such, there are other rules that come into play.

The questions I ask myself here is, what reason did ZephyOG have for shooting you? Was it to protect his own life?  Was he robbed and trying to get his stuff back? Did he have any valid RP reason for shooting you at all and getting his entire gang into a gunfight? The answer to all of these questions is no! So no valid RP reason that I see = fail RP. The only reason I can see for ZephyOG shooting you after telling you he had friends in the area was to get into a gunfight which is what we call baiting.  There was absolutely no reason why he couldn't have left the area and gone about his business.

tldr: Just because someone threatens your life, and you're allowed to defend yourself, you still need a valid RP reason for shooting them. 

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(3.7) Baiting - Baiting for the sake of a gunfight is not roleplay. Punishment is a ban.
(7.1.3) Killing someone must be carried out with high quality roleplay

Name :  Zephy Bonjela
SID : 76561198151011207
GUID : b7357bac906f8629e1bb37cef7b7e301

 
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