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Revert some of the changes to Pillbox
- Thread starter Doctor Box
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MartinShipman11
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- Location
- West Midlands. UK
Massive +1 for this. Pillbox was a great hub for RP in the past. Would like to actually park safely outside Pillbox if I have to deliver my pals there without having to run all the way up the street too, maybe move the bollards to be closer to the doors?
- Location
- UK, Peterborough
its not supposed to be a social gathering RP hub tho, its meant to be go there drop off someone leave then to RP with the nhs and come back it dont need all the people who used to loiter there and cause chaos, before these changes it would be lucky to see more than 3 nhs clocked on some nights and now there is sometimes 15+, and a good chunk of that is because pillbox is now not a chaotic mess and easy to work at, tbf if it reverted then all i imagine is nhs go back to non active and everyone moans theres no nhs but brilliant everyone can loiter at a hospital again, theres bars and clubs and resteraunts to go socalise in
- Location
- UK
I believe the changes were for the NHS as Pillbox, whilst at times great for rp, too many people would loiter there and cause absolute havoc.
Samuel Shire actually collected data from the CCTV Dispatches to G6/Police and one time over 300 weapons were spotted in Pillbox one week alone and it was absolutely crazy.
G6 practically had to live there and not do other contracts because we'd have NHS on our freq requesting us at Pillbox often pulling us away from other jobs. G6 tried to stay on top of it but due to how bogged down the Police was back then with other dispatches like panics, bank alarms, shop alarms, reported gunshots, and drug deals, etc. we'd detain people and 8/10 times had to let them go as G6 has no power to issue fines or arrest people. The only time we'd have luck was if PSU was deployed there or a probationary constable came with a training officer to tick off their ODP.
It got so bad the Judicary had to make any criminal offense commited at Pillbox resulted in x3 the sentence/fine, which I'll be honest Police never really enforced it as they believe it was crazy charging someone lets say 150 months for just having a bladed article in a public place.
Not to mention the RP there at times was far from satisfactory to put it lightly - whenever G6 intervened to kick people out we'd get "Fuck off G6" or the classic "Wag one free my guy" and stabbing us for literally escorting someone out of the building. Personally even when Pillbox was busy I avoided it unless G6 genuiunely needed support down there.
Obviously this is my experience from running G6 not from the staff team pov
- Location
- Mirror Park Motors
The problem is, you're saying it as a bad thing. I actually liked the interactions that we as G6 had at pillbox. Subpar RP you'll find anywhere, not just there. But the other points you're mentioning are a good thing, no? How many CCTV dispatches do you see now? In my eyes it hasn't moved the RP, it's diminished it. A great loss.I believe the changes were for the NHS as Pillbox, whilst at times great for rp, too many people would loiter there and cause absolute havoc.
Samuel Shire actually collected data from the CCTV Dispatches to G6/Police and one time over 300 weapons were spotted in Pillbox one week alone and it was absolutely crazy.
G6 practically had to live there and not do other contracts because we'd have NHS on our freq requesting us at Pillbox often pulling us away from other jobs. G6 tried to stay on top of it but due to how bogged down the Police was back then with other dispatches like panics, bank alarms, shop alarms, reported gunshots, and drug deals, etc. we'd detain people and 8/10 times had to let them go as G6 has no power to issue fines or arrest people. The only time we'd have luck was if PSU was deployed there or a probationary constable came with a training officer to tick off their ODP.
It got so bad the Judicary had to make any criminal offense commited at Pillbox resulted in x3 the sentence/fine, which I'll be honest Police never really enforced it as they believe it was crazy charging someone lets say 150 months for just having a bladed article in a public place.
Not to mention the RP there at times was far from satisfactory to put it lightly - whenever G6 intervened to kick people out we'd get "Fuck off G6" or the classic "Wag one free my guy" and stabbing us for literally escorting someone out of the building. Personally even when Pillbox was busy I avoided it unless G6 genuiunely needed support down there.
Obviously this is my experience from running G6 not from the staff team pov
- Location
- UK
You might have found the RP fun as G6 but that doesn't mean the rest of them did.
If a G6 Officer stuck by their char backstory and didn't want to be corrupt they be in a constant loop of detaining -> contacting police -> letting go due to lack of response from police. Repeat that multiple times on the same group coming back for no reason other than to annoy people and it gets stale very quickly.
G6 who are more corrupt could technically deal with it by taking matters into their own hands but very few G6 would do that - especially if they created a char backstory protecting the prime minister previously or working on an army base as it would make no sense for them to do that.
You see very few dispatches to Pillbox nowadays which means the changes for the NHS worked - you may have enjoyed Pillbox but NHS probably hated it there are too many people would interrupt their roleplay. Don't forget these changes were made for the NHS at the end of the day.
G6 now have more variety of jobs which encourage roleplay not just feeling like beating up baldies so I'll hop on as G6.
I personally enjoyed Pillbox at times, if it was quiet and there wasn't much going on, at least there was always something going on there. But overall, I would say Pillbox was horrible. Constant people just taking the piss, testing the limits on what they can do before we step in, getting shot over dumb shit, baldies, etc.
Most G6 didn't really fancy going there unless there was at least 1-2 other officers also around also wanting to go there, it was just aids to go and be there alone - and even as a group, it very often got very annoying due to majority of the time, getting absolutely no, or dogshit RP. You felt more like a teacher trying to keep their kindergarden class in line than a security officer.
This is kind of what makes it all worthwhile, the new options we have provide a lot more variety in RP, a lot more variety in what you do, and makes it a whole lot more fun to be G6. Thanks to all the new options we have as G6, I've been very excited to hop on G6 because at least for me personally, the average RP I get now on G6 compared to 6 months ago is universes apart.
Because of those changes, I personally don't really miss Pillbox. I do think it might've been a tiny bit overkill, and maybe its too dead now. It would be nice to still be able to go there sometimes but these days theres almost nothing to do there because Pillbox has just gotten that quiet - but I still prefer this over the old setup, by a huge margin.
Bmav
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- Location
- Grove Street
Imo pillbox had good RP potential the way it was yes sometimes weapons were branded but lets be honest that will and does still happen and the contermesure of 3* de sentence + the cameras was a good fix, regardless dont think just because some bollards got added it changes that fact, the only thing the bollards and all these pillbox changes done is make pillbox a get treated and get the fuck out without having anyone there and be a empty husk of what it used to be, yes people loitered sometimes, yes people met there etc.. but honestly that is the essence of RP and if a certain amount of people are annoyed at the fact that they wanted diffrent RP so lets add bollards and make pillbox a Prison 2.0 than i dont know what to tell you.
Regardless of what you think a place where people meet up is the defenition of RP creating the opposing scenario is just destroying that, now you going to say G6 had to spend their lives there etc.. that is the purpose of G6 they are private security it makes sense xd the only diffrence of back then to now is that G6 instead of camping the hospital are camping the Farmacys so maybe we should put bollards at farmacys aswell yhe ?
The mentality of, oh we not liking any existing RP in this area so lets make it an impregnable fortress dont make any sense to me regardless of where it is, especially considering the fact Pillbox somehow looks more like a fortress than the police station does at this point.
Regardless of what you think a place where people meet up is the defenition of RP creating the opposing scenario is just destroying that, now you going to say G6 had to spend their lives there etc.. that is the purpose of G6 they are private security it makes sense xd the only diffrence of back then to now is that G6 instead of camping the hospital are camping the Farmacys so maybe we should put bollards at farmacys aswell yhe ?
The mentality of, oh we not liking any existing RP in this area so lets make it an impregnable fortress dont make any sense to me regardless of where it is, especially considering the fact Pillbox somehow looks more like a fortress than the police station does at this point.
You say, as someone that didn't have to be there for the entire time they were IC, because the second you leave, 5 minutes later you get a radio from NHS asking for assistance because baldy #15123 is now punching them.
As I said, Pillbox was fun at times, and it being an epicentre for activity was definitely also quite nice - but it just got way too bad.
People didn't care about the *3 fine/sentence, police didn't enforce it, thus, people weren't scared off by it. The CCTV also offers very little against it.
G6 has more jobs than purely security for the hospital, it just appeared that way because we always had to be there, we didn't have time for anything else. We now have more time to spend time at prison, spend time at court, deal with dispatches. We have more variety in our RP.
As I said in my previous post, I do think it might've been a bit overdone, because its turned Pillbox from super busy to a ghost town, and it would've been nicer to have it somewhere inbetween the two - but the way it was was just not fun for NHS or G6, most of the time.
Ronnie Mush
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- Location
- Fudge Lane
+1
I feel like the bollards should be moved near toward the doors of upper pill, essentially this is so NHS can still have no interruptions with parking there ambulance at the top, but this will result in people being able to park in the designated parking spaces, also moved the taxi drop off point more to the left of the doors of pillbox and put bollards there, NHS will have there own 'drop off box' and pillbox will be great again. Not as good as it used to be but it will be an improvement.
https://i.gyazo.com/d28b91e8871c58632668c81d77859560.jpg
This is the idea of what I have come up with, I am aware it is different to the servers pillbox but its just a reference.
I feel like the bollards should be moved near toward the doors of upper pill, essentially this is so NHS can still have no interruptions with parking there ambulance at the top, but this will result in people being able to park in the designated parking spaces, also moved the taxi drop off point more to the left of the doors of pillbox and put bollards there, NHS will have there own 'drop off box' and pillbox will be great again. Not as good as it used to be but it will be an improvement.
https://i.gyazo.com/d28b91e8871c58632668c81d77859560.jpg
This is the idea of what I have come up with, I am aware it is different to the servers pillbox but its just a reference.
+1
Think all the points have been said, massive W if it was reverted. From what I've read, they said it's for NHS but g6 are the main ones benefitting from this / combatting the revert at all.
You say g6 were stuck at pillbox all the time, but that's what they do now too especially because the amount of police has increased and shop robberies etc have a faster pd response time.
You can't even go and interact with NHS anymore because you'll be "parked on the reds" etc, it deters civilians interacting with NHS outside of getting revived.
Think all the points have been said, massive W if it was reverted. From what I've read, they said it's for NHS but g6 are the main ones benefitting from this / combatting the revert at all.
You say g6 were stuck at pillbox all the time, but that's what they do now too especially because the amount of police has increased and shop robberies etc have a faster pd response time.
You can't even go and interact with NHS anymore because you'll be "parked on the reds" etc, it deters civilians interacting with NHS outside of getting revived.
- Location
- UK, Peterborough
theres a carpark like 20ft from the entrance on both upper and lower people just cba to park up then have to go back and get the car back out
- Location
- South Wales
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