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That can absolutely happen, here is a little gif from back in the day https://gyazo.com/9eaeab6ae04f8ca1fe45b827a03f1050, i shoot the tires, bullets take out the tires but also kill the passanger who was on the other side of the car from me, i think that's pretty good proof.
What i see, yeah it looks you killed person with ricochet that is unlucky. I guess on this point every person who gets killed while driving away has right to ask video from shooter on this point and see what and how is person shooting. If there is proof like car is getting shot, bullets are flying over car and next to car(mayby it is ricochet). Driver can ask video and say wtf hes shooter shooting.
Or... you could stop complaining about this as well as starting stuff on the forms and just place your hands on top of your head if you have been initiated on, ever though of that?
Whole problem started has people are dying but no death threats done. If you wanna kill people, you need quality role play before killing. There are alot post talked, no point going thru details again.
Totally out of line boy. Just gave technical insight on how ballistics work in the game to address the issue discussed which someone else actually started. Rules discussion is not the place to start provoking a fight.
Dude this section is not for attacking people. I dont know any section where you can attack. Write me message then, tell me whats on your mind. You literally assuming stuff and nosense. You havent readed noting. People are allowed to ask and talk with admins.
Agreed. I think your video and the previous video from Slawek clearly show that a shot aimed at the wheels can easily rip out the person inside. They may be accidental and to be honest the driver is taking a risk trying to escape.
I am not saying you did it purposely but on this video you should shot with one bullet per click or not at all with that distance. On my eyes you cant blame recoil because of that. Because you know recoil is a thing. Everybody skill level is different, i dont know what distance people can shoot wheels. Thats where common sense should come in and know yourself to stop shooting and get better opportunity. You’re probably good person but you didint follow your Instinct or didint know recoil is a thing.
I don't want to seem rude here, but you're arguing for arguments sake, when a vehicle is initiated upon there is a chance the driver/passenger(s) will be shot and killed, it's really as simple as that, nobody in their right mind would use single fire to disable a vehicle's tyres/engine becuase it would end in them failing miserably and them looking a wee bit silly. Not sure what you're trying to push through at this point buddy.
It started has a question. How many people can i kill then with that initiation(STOP CAR OR I WILL SHOOT YOUR TiRES) and when its considered RDM. The way it is right now, theres no point having rule RDM then. Its allways been cosidered rulebreak when you kill people in car with poor initiation. I understand what you saying, you blaming driver and thats justifies killing without roleplay. I understand your logic but it dosent support roleplay thats why theres rule RDM.I don't want to seem rude here, but you're arguing for arguments sake, when a vehicle is initiated upon there is a chance the driver/passenger(s) will be shot and killed, it's really as simple as that, nobody in their right mind would use single fire to disable a vehicle's tyres/engine becuase it would end in them failing miserably and them looking a wee bit silly. Not sure what you're trying to push through at this point buddy.
imo the rule is fine the way it is as it states 'You may not actively enter or continue any combat situation for the next 15 minutes.' so if someone shot at you then of course you would be able to defend yourself but just not start gunfights.
. I believe the thing that would discourage people to wait to be revived is how long the fight could take, If you know it will last 20 minutes the medic can't come to you wouldn't wait.
You have to look at it from a factions point of view if you get revived you CANT help anyone for 15min or enforce your laws, you cant stop anyone from doing something you would otherwise have stoped like a robbery or even a person driving away as that be actively entering a situation. This also would lead to more people just pressing f for respect what allows you to do everything but join in the gunfight you got killed in or me 1k near your death location and resulting in medic getting less RP as people just respawn instead of waiting, so that they can get back to rp with other the way they would normalyimo the rule is fine the way it is as it states 'You may not actively enter or continue any combat situation for the next 15 minutes.' so if someone shot at you then of course you would be able to defend yourself but just not start gunfights.
The way I look at the current rule is it allows you good time to just enjoy the RP with the medic
From looking at a factions point of view there is nothing stopping you enforcing your laws even after being revived, the rule is there to encourage RP. Removing that aspect will lead to less RP overall. You don't need to be able to shoot a gun to enforce laws.... I think this is something that got lost over the years, If you look back 2-3 years ago you would have more RP over gunfights. The rule makes sense so unless people don't like to RP then ofc the rule will need to be changed however this is a RP server so again not seeing any reason we would need to have it changed.
