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Unban Appeal - jban - GTA RP

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Unban Appeal for jban 

In-game Name: Pablo Mankilla

Server: GTA RP

Steam ID: 76561199138817916

Ban ID: 12506

Reason given for your ban: C2.3

In your own words, please type why you think you were banned.: i was banned combat logging in an active situation.

Why should we unban you ?: To be honest, I don't remember this. However this was 6 months ago and im not saying it didn't happen. This ban comes right after a long appeal which resulted in me getting unbanned, and I believe many questions you would like to know are answered there, such as why I would like to return. I made a mistake in the past but with a break this long I hope I can come back and be given another chance. My characters have also been wiped so any advantage I may have gained from this would be gone. As you can see from my previous unban appeal which got me unbanned, I took responsibility for my actions but now I can't provide any information to this situation as I dont recall the event. Regardless I hope to be given another chance to return to RPUK, and hope I can become a contributing member to the community again.

Thank you.

Please confirm that you have read the unban appeal process and rules: Yes

 
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Whether you combat logged yesterday, or 6 months ago. It is still a rule break, and you should be held accountable for it.

Quote the rule you broke

Explain it in your own words

Explain why it’s on the server

and explain why you did it, for context it looks as though you were selling drugs and came off of your bike

 
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It is still a rule break, and you should be held accountable for it.
I do agree, and never said otherwise.

(C2.3) Combat logging - Logging out at any point during RP is exploiting. Some examples of this include: logging out during a firefight, being chased by the police, arrested by the police, while dead awaiting a medic, logging out in order to save gear, rage-quitting, logging out whilst restrained/detained. Punishment is a permanent ban. Staff can make an informed decision depending on if you’ve made an attempt to resolve the issue. We do suggest you attempt to rejoin the server and continue the roleplay (try messaging them with the mobile system first).

Explain it in your own words
Combat logging is where anyone intentially leaves a situation at any point to gain an unfair advantage. Obviously there are some cases where real life gets in the way but this should be brought up in OOC so all parties can agree on what to do. 

Explain why it’s on the server
The reason this rule is in place, as said before, to avoid anyone gaining an unfair advantage in any situation. Without this rule, any sitution which turns bad could be just avoided by leaving the server. This rule ensures RP is continues and flows proeperly.

explain why you did it
As I said previouisly, I honestly don't remember what this is about. If I knew I could try give insight to this. I know that doesn't help me in this case but it was a while back and I genuinely dont recall it. However this isn't me denying that this happened.

 
Apologies, I had a reply typed up but never submitted.

As I said previouisly, I honestly don't remember what this is about. If I knew I could try give insight to this. I know that doesn't help me in this case but it was a while back and I genuinely dont recall it. However this isn't me denying that this happened.
The situation was that you were presumably selling drugs at the hill, was knocked off your bike by an NPC and or crashed and fell off which led you to be in a downed state at 10:24am, which you disconnected, 20 minutes later and were saved later that day at 5.30 by being revived at a hospital.

 
Sorry I've been busy and haven't had time to reapond. I will respond later today

 
The situation was that you were presumably selling drugs at the hill, was knocked off your bike by an NPC and or crashed and fell off which led you to be in a downed state at 10:24am, which you disconnected, 20 minutes later
After thinking about it, I believe that what you said was how it went down. I was killed by an NPC whilst selling alone and waited hoping someone would stumble across me or NHS would come save me. Eventually, I had to get off the game but instead of respawning I made the mistake of deciding to leave the server. This then lead to me being found when I came back later that day, which was at a time the server was more populated.

 
Hello there, @jban!
I hope we're doing well tonight, 
I'd like to start this off simple. 

If you refuse to read the unban rules, how can we believe you'd follow the server rules? 
Another one, why did you report this content. Your ticket wouldn't be closed, if you read the unban rules, you'd know that; 

If you "bump" your appeal (adding extra comments) or keep asking; “when will I be unbanned” we reserve the right to deny the request.
 

 
If you refuse to read the unban rules, how can we believe you'd follow the server rules? 
You phrase this in such a way where you make it seem as if I broke the appeal rules.

According to the rule you quoted, 

If you "bump" your appeal (adding extra comments) or keep asking; “when will I be unbanned” we reserve the right to deny the request."

I would disagree that I did so. Previously I've never had the warning of a topic being timed out as im usually quick to respond to these things, but I found myself busy and wasn't able to. I replied to the message to inform the staff member dealing with me that I would respond as soon as I got the time. Then I did respond to myself, yet it wasn't out of a lack of patience but to provide an actual response. I did not "bump" the appeal so it would get viewed faster or to elaborate on anything I had said, but to be able to continue this appeal.

If i didn't do so, the ticket would most likely be closed due to the lack of a response again.

Another one, why did you report this content
I done this as I believe we can both agree that the locking of the appeal is a bit silly. It doesn't take much to see that I was trying to make sure that my appeal wasn't closed and I was not "bumping" it. I thought that maybe it could bring some light to it and someone could potentially see the situation reasonably?
 
You did break the appeal rules, hence why this appeal was locked for 3 days due to bumping. 
You could've edited your original message, but you decided to add a new message, bumping the threat. 
Which would fall under; If you "bump" your appeal (adding extra comments).
I would also like to quote; Unban Appeals are the lowest priority and as it is your responsibility to learn and follow our rules, there are no timeframes.

but to be able to continue this appeal.
You would disagree that you did so, that is fine, we're not here to have a debate about that, but here to talk about your unban appeal, if you can't see that you did do that, that puts you in a light that gives me less hope / faith in unbanning you over all, you mention things as "I added additional text / reply to continue this appeal", do you not think that would fall under "bumping" your appeal? 

The ticket wouldn't be closed, you're given a lot of time to reply, and usually the only time you'd get notified about a potential closure of an unban appeal is if you haven't replied after x days to a staff's question, to which you'd be informed about a potential time out in the next 24h. 

 

I done this as I believe we can both agree that the locking of the appeal is a bit silly. It doesn't take much to see that I was trying to make sure that my appeal wasn't closed and I was not "bumping" it. I thought that maybe it could bring some light to it and someone could potentially see the situation reasonably?
Once again, I do not see any of this as "silly", you bumped the appeal, you added extra comments, bumping the appeal in priority / threats, be it out of accident, or malice, that is a different question, but you not seeing that you did bump it, once again, shines a light on you. bumping an appeal always comes with a 3 day cooldown, enough time for you to re-read the rules which I linked above, especially the unban rules. 

My question still stands, if you can't follow our unban rules, which are linked in; 
https://wiki.roleplay.co.uk/Guide:Unban_Appeal
(Which btw, you should've read before making the appeal) 

How can I trust you to follow our community / server rules? 
Misusing the report post feature as well, once again, out of accident, confusion or malice, ending with the same result. 

 
potential closure of an unban appeal is if you haven't replied after x days to a staff's question, to which you'd be informed about a potential time out in the next 24h. 
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1 day without a response leads to a threaten of closure?

There was also no timeframe given before the ticket would be "timed out", hence I felt more inclined to reply there and then to ensure the topic wouldn't be closed.

I do not see any of this as "silly", you bumped the appeal, you added extra comments, bumping the appeal in priority / threats, be it out of accident, or malice, that is a different question, but you not seeing that you did bump it, once again, shines a light on you
The point im trying to make is that the whole situation is unreasonable, anyone can see that the intention was not to speed up the unban process, but to make sure I would not have to restart it. I may have "bumped" with this definition, but I dont see how any person viewing logically can see this as worthy of a time out. It is my fault that I didn't consider editing my previous comment before posting the new one, and all I can say from this is that in the future if this happens again that is what I would do. 

How can I trust you to follow our community / server rules? 
I believe that I've mostly answered this in my previous appeal but to summurise,

I have taken a long break before appealing from my original time. In the over 7 month time period I've missed the RPUK community and overall experience. In this time, I can see that what I done what I done to give me an unfair advantage against others. I believe this happened due to me being worn out of the roleplay part of the game after months of continous playing, and so I started to play the game in a more competetive way. 

If I come back, I would have a try have a focus on rolepaly and character development, aswell as trying to create fun and unique situtions with anyone I come across.

Obviously it may be difficult to trust me, but I do genuinely miss being a part of the community. I've read over the rules and believe that if I return, I would not make the same mistakes that I have made previously. 

 
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Instead of arguing with staff on the appeal where you want to be unbanned from to play here, you should be abiding by the unban guidelines like everyone else and appealing your ban.

We will not have pages of appeals, if people fail to respond in time.

Try again, in a week

13/07/2023

 
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