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Unban Appeal - Leyton Lean - GTA RP

Leyton Lean

Member
Location
Grove Street

Server: GTA RP
Character Name: Leyton Lean
Steam ID: 76561198994515352
Ban ID (just the numbers): 21108
Ban Reason: C1.8 And G1.7
Why do you think you were banned: I was banned for knowing that someone was ban evading and choosing to keep that information to myself. I now realise that by doing this I protected him and allowed him to continue playing while avoiding the consequences of his previous ban. I have learned my lesson from this i need to report things like this straight away no matter how i feel about it i understand the consequences of what i did and i will not make the same mistake again.

When i first got added to the ticket I lied to staff even after given so many chances to come clean which has made this a whole lot worse for myself and can only apologise for continuing to lie after being provided golden chances and sticking to being stubborn.

Looking back i should of just been honest from the start of the first ticket and avoid all of this. I made a very poor decision to lie that has now damaged the trust staff have in me. I do regret my actions and not only cause i received a ban but because i now look stupid for protecting someone who never deserved to play and lied.
Why should we unban you: Firstly i would like to apologise for my actions.

I believe i should be unbanned because while i did make a very wrong choice to keep information about a ban evader hidden i did not gain any personal benefit from him playing again. I would also like to think that i have a pretty clean record when it comes to bans/warnings which i do hope goes in favour for me.

The only reason why i kept this information to myself was purely because im not the type of person to go and tell on someone which i do now know is wrong and i will not be having this mindset going forward.

I have now came clean to staff and provided screenshots of when i was informed of him evading which i understand i should of done from the get go and not spin a web of lies.

What i have learnt is to never keep anything like this to myself ever again and come clean to staff to save myself from any punishment.

I also want to apologise for simply wasting staffs time in tickets and messages.
Please confirm that you have read the unban appeal process and rules: Yes
 
Hello there @Leyton Lean , I hope you are doing well.

There is a lot to unpack here - so let´s start from the top.

While we do understand people often not coming forward, to a degree, what we don´t get is the lying. Why? The circumstances of your ban were less than ideal and not something we enjoyed pursuing in the slightest, but surely you can see how you dropped yourself in it the second you decided to lie to us, no?
 
Yeah I'm doing well, hope you are also well?

As stupid as it sounds i lied to avoid myself getting dragged into the situation more than i was already involved, I enjoy playing on this server and thought that if i lied then i would be able to continue playing and keep myself out of the whole ban evader situation.

I'm not a drama oriented person so i thought it was best to stay out of it and lie which was clearly the wrong path for me to take.

I did not lie to protect the evader it was more so to keep myself out of it.

I understand that this was not the correct decision and was very poor for me to do.
 
I´m alright, thank you very much.

Alright, I can somewhat understand that. However, all it would have taken for you would have been a ticket or even a private message to any staff member saying "Hey, so and so is ban evading, just so you´re aware." That´s it. You wouldn´t have been dragged into anything or gotten in trouble even...

I´ll be honest here, this didn´t have to be a permanent ban. We are not at all fans of acting on salty revenge reports, but they do need looking into. You were likely going to get a slap on the wrist or an FBS ban, were you honest from the start.

We can forgive you not involving yourself, but lying to us when directly confronted does not paint a picture of trust, does it?

How are we gonna move forward from this Leyton? You are in a leadership position of a whitelisted gang, but you are more than willing to lie to us when it suits you - I´m sure it´s understandable that we are quite reluctant on letting you back in at the moment, right?
 
I understand that I should of came forward straight away with the knowledge of the ban evader and i do regret keeping this information hidden.

i understand that the trust has been lost and me keeping a leadership position of a whitelisted gang is clearly not the best image presented to the server , i think it would be best for me to step down/be removed as a leader and slowly earn that trust back over time.
 
So let´s say you are to step down from your leadership position - how do you reckon you could earn that lost trust back?
 
This is a hard question to answer as it is something i will have to do rather than say.

well it would take a fair bit of time as trust is not easily given but very easily lost so it will be things that i do within roleplay, following the rules and just being 100% honest when talking to staff.
 
I appreciate your honesty and you taking accountability so far.

So moving forward, what do you think you should be doing differently when confronted with these kind of situations and when approached by staff? What if you find yourself in a situation where you might get yourself in trouble by being honest with us?
 
I will be straight up and just answer with 100% honesty when approached by staff but i will not be putting myself in this situation again, its just not worth the hassle its caused.

well if i do find myself in a situation where being honest will land me in some trouble then it will be worth being honest from the start as it makes it easier moving forward also keeping any trust i have.
 
Very well Leyton.

Now onto the initial issue - why did you not let us know once you had knowledge of Dazza ban evading? As you can imagine, we do not hand 1.6 bans out very often and only to the worst offenders. Shouldn't that have rung a massive alarm bell in your head to say right, this guy should probably not be here and staff needs to be made aware?
 
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I honestly thought that staying quiet would be easier as he would just stop playing.

Also as i have said before i don't want to be involved in the drama that could come from dazza evading so keeping it to myself seemed the best option at the time, clearly this was not the case.

I did not actually know exactly what his ban was as i thought he got banned from something OOC related and i never looked into it. i understand that this reasoning is not great but this is what my thought process was at the time.

Looking at this now i understand that a ban is a ban and i should of came to staff regardless.
 
Let me ask you this - You stated you didn´t want to come forward to not get involved in potential drama regarding Dazza. What made you think you would be?

Why did it seemingly not feel right to you to come to us, be it in a ticket, a VC or even a DM to any staff member? Are you unwilling to work with us? Do you not care who is part of this community?
 
I did not want to come forward back then as i thought it would pull me into drama because he would of been put into tickets and to my knowledge i was the only one to know at the time so he would know it was me and just drama which is something i cant be bothered with. Looking back i know this was wrong and i should and in future will come forward and contact a staff member.

it was not a case of any issues of coming to staff it was just me trying to avoid drama. I have no issues working with staff.

I do care who is part of the community as thats what makes the server, This was a serious lapse of judgement looking back on it.
 
Very well @Leyton Lean

I am satisfied with your responses and am willing to give you another chance.
We sincerely hope you have learned from this going forward and will not repeat the same mistakes again in the future! We will not request or demand for you to step down from your leadership position, that is something for Ramsay and yourself to figure out.

Do keep in mind, bans are pushed for reasons that might not always be entirely transparent for many reasons - in this case, serious harm could have come from you not coming forward.

Go back on the server, enjoy your time and prove me right!

Welcome back!!!
 
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