Allow Illegal Hunting

[Rouble]

Brief suggestion: Allow illegal hunting

Detailed suggestion: Allow everyone to hunt illegally, so people who can't get a license, can still hunt and get the fur, meat, and leather. Consequences of illegal hunting should be severe, so maybe some PNC changes may have to be made but I'm pretty sure there's already a few laws regarding illegal hunting.

Pros: - People who have criminal records don't have to wait 6 months to get a hunting license
- Everyone can do it
- Rangers can actually be actively looking for illegal hunters which gives them more to do.

Cons: None that I can think of

Does it ruin the servers economy: Potentially reduces price of leather since more people can do it, which in turn could reduce the price of armour.

 

[VeganVlad/Harold O'Wood]

Seeing how 13+ O'Woods are being banned from hunting due to simply carrying the strong O'Wood name this is a big +1

 

[Samuel Shire]

There's ways to get meat without a hunting license btw

 

[Rouble]

There's ways to get meat without a hunting license btw

Not leather and fur, plus it gives rangers an extra thing to do

 

[VeganVlad/Harold O'Wood]

There's ways to get meat without a hunting license btw

It aint meat people want son

 

[SteveStacy]

Surprised this suggestion hasn't been suggested already. +1 !

How would people get the gear though?

 

[O4rZ]

Brief suggestion: Allow illegal hunting

Detailed suggestion: Allow everyone to hunt illegally, so people who can't get a license, can still hunt and get the fur, meat, and leather. Consequences of illegal hunting should be severe, so maybe some PNC changes may have to be made but I'm pretty sure there's already a few laws regarding illegal hunting.

Pros: - People who have criminal records don't have to wait 6 months to get a hunting license
- Everyone can do it
- Rangers can actually be actively looking for illegal hunters which gives them more to do.

Cons: None that I can think of

Does it ruin the servers economy: Potentially reduces price of leather since more people can do it, which in turn could reduce the price of armour.

+1

 

[Rouble]

Surprised this suggestion hasn't been suggested already. +1 !

How would people get the gear though?

Well one of the cons would be you need to use your own weapons, or run them over with your car. Or better yet, bring back hunting rifles but at higher prices

 

[VeganVlad/Harold O'Wood]

Surprised this suggestion hasn't been suggested already. +1 !

How would people get the gear though?

There is a reason people are banned...

Or do what I did and just find a dodgy hunter

 

[SteveStacy]

Well one of the cons would be you need to use your own weapons, or run them over with your car. Or better yet, bring back hunting rifles but at higher prices

I thought "running them over" was a no no and seen as exploiting? (I might be completely bugging there but i feel like I remember that from somewhere)

Possibly adding an NPC that moves, similar to the dodgy doctor, which sells the equipment at a higher cost could be good.

 

[Rouble]

I thought "running them over" was a no no and seen as exploiting? (I might be completely bugging there but i feel like I remember that from somewhere)

If it's classed as an exploit then running over mountain lions when you're in a car to save your friend should also be classed as an exploit. Otherwise, I don't see why it is an exploit, I can kill an animal with a car

 

[SteveStacy]

I think it’s because if you smash into an animal it’s gonna be fucked, innerds and blood everywhere, would be much harder and of much lower quality trying to skin and harvest it. With a single bullet it will be much cleaner and of higher quality, but obviously the game doesn’t see it that way and you get the same from either kill which is seen as an exploit, also it’s much quicker and costs less to just ram them over rather then doing it the conventional and “normal” way. It differs from the “mountain lion” as you’re not trying to harvest its fur, meat or bones etc. (again I might be completely off the mark there but that was just my understanding of it)

 

[Rouble]

I think it’s because if you smash into an animal it’s gonna be fucked, innerds and blood everywhere, would be much harder and of much lower quality trying to skin and harvest it. With a single bullet it will be much cleaner and of higher quality, but obviously the game doesn’t see it that way and you get the same from either kill which is seen as an exploit, also it’s much quicker and costs less to just ram them over rather then doing it the conventional and “normal” way. It differs from the “mountain lion” as you’re not trying to harvest its fur, meat or bones etc. (again I might be completely off the mark there but that was just my understanding of it)

I see this point. I suppose hunting rifles will need to make a return to make it viable

 

[Blaindale]

+1

 

[Nikki Nixon]

-1 would make all real legal hunters feel like dickheads after being clean and legal for 6 months to only have everyone in the city be able to do it. and what is a ranger going to do to a gang of people hunting? Nothing. Police? Who cares another crime on your pnc. Cims dont care about having more crimes on their records. So i feel like this is not a thing in the first place so that legal people have something and crims cant have everything. A way of life so to say. and if it does get added like this then why would all the legal people stay legal to keep that hunting permit they waited and stay clean for. They can just go illegal too then.

 

[cvppa]

+1.

Maybe illegal hunters get poor quality goods from animals? To keep a balance making being an official hunter a preferred role?

 

[Zeus0x00]

why would all the legal people stay legal to keep that hunting permit

You would have access to all the needed equipment whereas crims would have to find a way to get a hunting rifle or go around killing animals with melee. You also would not have any risk of being arrested for it, crims don't care about their records but they would all rather not get arrested when possible. If crims were caught all of their equipment and illegally gotten animal products would be seized. Obviously rangers can't much on their own to prevent it but they can gather information and work with the police to catch people.

Crims could use pistols for hunting but that runs the risk of alerting police and the cost of pistol ammo is more than the price of hunting ammo so you are lowering the profit you make if you do that.

 

[AdamD]

I think with the rangers and rural police working together there is potential for illegal hunting but I would agree that this is a perk of being “legal” and would be a bit of a kick in the teeth to the guys who are fully legal, I would like to hear the rangers opinions on it, when I was a ranger there was very little interaction with hunters and generally I felt in my opinion nothing to do other than hunt(this was a while back and things could be different now) this could build some interesting storylines trying to catch the illegal hunters, figure out who’s supplying rifles to them etc.

 

[Rouble]

-1 would make all real legal hunters feel like dickheads after being clean and legal for 6 months to only have everyone in the city be able to do it. and what is a ranger going to do to a gang of people hunting? Nothing. Police? Who cares another crime on your pnc. Cims dont care about having more crimes on their records. So i feel like this is not a thing in the first place so that legal people have something and crims cant have everything. A way of life so to say. and if it does get added like this then why would all the legal people stay legal to keep that hunting permit they waited and stay clean for. They can just go illegal too then.

I don't think they stay legal ONLY for hunting, sure they take care because they may lose their license. This just allows crims to do it. I don't think it takes away from the role at all. That's why I mentioned hunting rifles to be more expensive for illegal hunters, as a way to balance it.

 

[Rouble]

+1.

Maybe illegal hunters get poor quality goods from animals? To keep a balance making being an official hunter a preferred role?

I think making illegal hunters get lower quality materials means changing different leather qualities, which means different armour qualities; same thing with the meat. Bullets and rifles should be more expensive or even if not brought it, illegal hunters can hunt with pistols or their weapon of choice. This allows patrolling hunters to listen out for different type of gun sounds and they'll be able to track and find an illegal hunter easier, this is a balance feature by default when using guns other than hunting rifles.