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Report a player - Firearms (Delany, Gabanna, and one other didn't get the name) - GTA RP

John Stevens / Jimmy

John Stevens / Jimmy

Los Santos Police Senior
Los Santos Police Senior
Los Santos Police Trainer
Location
United kingdom

Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Jimmy Smith
Reported Players: Firearms (Delany, Gabanna, and one other didn't get the name)
Date: Jul 9, 2025
Time: 23:30
What best describes this incident: RDM G1.2
Please (in detail) describe the incident: I was in the area of a TFA shooting, around 10 minutes after the actual shootout (which I had no involvement in). While in my vehicle, I was beanbagged, pulled out, and searched under the Firearms Act. At no point was I provided reasonable grounds (RP) for why I was being detained, searched, or treated as a suspect.

From my perspective, I didn’t do anything to warrant this treatment. It feels like standard police RP in firearms situations is to immediately assume involvement without proper cause. For example, had I chosen to drive past, shoot, and then leave, that would clearly warrant action but instead, I was simply present in a public area and treated as if I were directly involved.

Later in the cells, PC Gabana claimed that I was “at the scene,” even though I had only been on a public road and then around the hospital. This felt like the officers were trying to build up a story in order to make charges stick.

All I’d like is for interactions with police to reflect fair, balanced RP, not a “police win every time” approach. I would appreciate staff reviewing how firearms officers engage with OCGs (and players in general) when there isn’t a direct threat, to ensure the RP is realistic and enjoyable for everyone.
Link(s) To Any Evidence: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/l3dfWeiTX6_N6-awD?invite=cr-MSx5S2MsMTk4NjAwNjc3&v=55
 
Hello fella I was the 3rd unnamed officer that was present in this situation. I think there's a little bit missing from this opening statement such as after the shootout occured you were followed the convoy of officers to hospital and than began to loiter around the area pulling closer to main reception while officers were dealing with wounded.
John Stevens / Jimmy said:
I didn’t do anything to warrant this treatment
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i would understand this if it was a hour or even later but this was literally 10 minutes after the shootout still wearing identifying marks that showed you to be tfa. so that was our grounds.

all n all mate the way you described this from POV is completely an IC issue tbh but thats my two cents
 
-Carter- said:
understand this if it was a hour or even later but this was literally 10 minutes after the shootout still wearing identifying marks that showed you to be tfa. so that was our grounds.
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I understand the situation, but if you ask the officers involved, you’ll see that I caused no issue. The only thing I said was, “have you paid Sandy tax” while near the hospital. PC Gabana then asked me to move away, which I complied with I drove down the street and parked up. I followed the lawful order that was given, yet I was still beanbagged and detained shortly after.


As I’ve said, if RP had been provided to me, I would have been happy to engage with it. Instead, there was no explanation or reasoning, and my attempt to open RP by being present and interacting was simply met with force, which felt more like RDM than genuine roleplay.
 
John Stevens / Jimmy said:
I understand the situation, but if you ask the officers involved, you’ll see that I caused no issue. The only thing I said was, “have you paid Sandy tax” while near the hospital. PC Gabana then asked me to move away, which I complied with I drove down the street and parked up. I followed the lawful order that was given, yet I was still beanbagged and detained shortly after.


As I’ve said, if RP had been provided to me, I would have been happy to engage with it. Instead, there was no explanation or reasoning, and my attempt to open RP by being present and interacting was simply met with force, which felt more like RDM than genuine roleplay.
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don't get me wrong i understand the reasoning here BUT you need to understand from our side as well you club has engaged in a gunfight with the police yes you may not have been involved but as you followed us from the scene of the crime and the way you were hanging around the area its very easy to class you as a potential threat given the situation and the repeated times you were asked to leave the area and that doesn't mean parking down the road it means leaving the area. thats all i have to say tbh unless asked otherwise
 
Hiya @John Stevens / Jimmy

As per report a player guidelines, we require at least three minutes (ideally five, or longer if you have it) of footage preceding the incident in order to establish context, in your case, three minutes prior to the alleged RDM. Currently, you have 25 seconds of 'useful' footage, but this doesn't meet the necessary criteria. If you could please grab the longer footage, that'd be excellent.

Many thanks.
 
Good morning Jimmy, hope you doing well. After yesterday 1h session on the cells, least I was expecting is to see my name in the report, even tho I don't really fall under RDM cos I didn't shoot anything thowards you, I will take my time to explain, again, why you were treated like that.


Let's start with your claim: ""even though I had only been on a public road and then around the hospital""

Last time I've checked, a train track migh be public, but it's deffo not a road. There is 2 screenshots of yourself with your car.

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And a second one with a better zoom

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Just like I've explained multiple times in the cells, the original scenario was TFA members shooting police on the same train tracks your vehicle was spotted

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After a shooting between police and TFA happent, and police having a TFA member inside the hospital, you decided to act goofy and roam arround the hospital, as you can be seen, I literally had time to aproach you and confirm who the driver was.

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After you kept roaming arround the hospital, just for the shake of it as can also be seen in your clip how you behave, and considering the "ongoing scenario" you were targeted for a s47 search.

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Hope the screenshots help you understand better all the context behind it. But just for personal curiosity, I'd also like to see at least 2 or 3 mins prior my colleges shooting AP's thowards you to see what you were really doing.
 
John Gabbana said:
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Good morning, mate.


As I’ve already said, I was there and when I was asked to leave (as shown in the screenshot with you next to me), I did so.


I’ve now pulled the full clip; apologies for originally providing the shorter one. Here’s the link:
https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/l3defLUoudF2rq8DO?invite=cr-MSxrdnQsMTk4NjAwNjc3&v=300


That’s the footage I have from when I started recording, but I’m sure there’s also a clip from the other side if you’d like to provide it.


Regarding your statement, Gabana I understand you weren’t the one with the beanbag, but since I didn’t get the names of the officers at the time, I could only mention those I knew were present. Your explanation that “the reason you were treated like that” was because you had just been in a shootout doesn’t justify the actions taken against me.


From my perspective, I received a GPS location, went to have a look, and when police drove out of the tunnel, I made my way to the hospital. While there, I didn’t cause any issues I simply made a joke about “Sandy tax” and tried to roleplay. Instead of engaging with that RP, I was immediately met with a beanbag, which to me felt like RDM rather than fair RP.
 
John Stevens / Jimmy said:
That’s the footage I have from when I started recording, but I’m sure there’s also a clip from the other side if you’d like to provide it.
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Longer sure but this whole report is still missing all the context all this clip shows is you still loitering outside the hospital and then being detained by other officers. like i once said this whole report imo is a IC issue and doestn class as RDM as gambas said he approached you as well and RP had taken place beforehand. this will be my last reply unless prompted otherwise
 
-Carter- said:
Longer sure but this whole report is still missing all the context all this clip shows is you still loitering outside the hospital and then being detained by other officers. like i once said this whole report imo is a IC issue and doestn class as RDM as gambas said he approached you as well and RP had taken place beforehand. this will be my last reply unless prompted otherwise
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He told me to leave, to which I drove out the immediate area.
 
So myself and Carter had a chat, I think we both agree this situation could of gone another way, more RP could of been provided and as he stated " It looks like it came down to shit communication"

I would also like to add the point of the charges were dropped and no report was filled out so I can't even futhur the RP by going through courts.

So to conclude my final message until staff reply I was left to loose a gun to an illegal stop and in my eyes what was RDM without being able to rp the illegal stop search and go through the courts.
 
@-Carter- just a few questions for you as you was the one that attended QE.

1) Was it yourself that beanbagged @John Stevens / Jimmy out of the vehicle? If so why was the decsion made so hastily manner?
2) Was you instructed to do this or did you make the call yourself to beanbag the individual out of the vehicle?
3) Could you explain more the quote "It looks like it came down to shit communication"
 
Hello for the first question yes it was I who beanbagged him out of the vehicle, the reason for this as stated we jsut had a shootout with tfa and had members of their club in the hospital at the time.from what I gathered they were asked multiple times to leave the area and refused to do so.so as there were wearing clothing that identified as tfa a s47 stop was conducted as mentioned we just had the gunfight.
2. It was not my decision to beanbag it was a order given by a superior officer so I followed the order given
3. I don’t believe I said “shit communication” but more of a miscommunication as I’ve told many things from jimmys side and from what I heard over the radio on my side
 
Thank you @John Stevens / Jimmy for taking the time to write this report.

When it comes to reports context is key and TFA had a shootout with Police that started around 23:28 and TFA was still inside the hospital getting treatment which they started to get out of the bed around 23:44. You was beanbagged out of the vehicle at around 23:47 meaning 3 minutes after TFA was revived you was still loitering around the area which would make it the same "combat situation".

You were given ample opportunity to leave but instead chose to remain in the area wearing TFA clothing at an active scene, which is still on-going, involving a shootout between TFA and Police. Given the context with the recent shootout, your presence at the scene, refusal to leave the area, and your clothing, are you surprised the Police acted in the way they did and detained you for a Stop and Search?

If the situation was completely over and a significant amount of time had passed then it would be a different outcome. However, in this case you inserted yourself into an active situation minutes after a shootout vs your group so it's not unreaonable for the Police to act the way they did.

Denied
Please do not let this discourage you from making reports in the future!
 
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