sorry for the small delay in the reply..
id like to address i did mainly only attach clip one for context of on the lead up to sandy situation (not implying rdm at this stage) i should have made this clear.
however i will attach the previous 5 mins prior to the RMD/VDM that i am addressing up in sandy.. as you will see from the new clip its clearly stated that we cannot touch the members of yours in cars as we are on a cool down so we where trying to deal with this situation the best we could at that time as after the few grove members (not downed yet) dropped us off you will see they left leaving only people in the 15min window and 1 member Ronnie from grove side who was able to help.
so as you mentioned you said you followed us up to sandy so therefor should/would have known we had gone up that way to possibly check in our downed members yeah? but then state here that you 'at this point didn't know that we had members coming out of the hospital' didn't you consider this at the time?
however shortly after when we leave pillbox and head outside over coms its heard there is a black zentorno heading up by stab city and a few moments later also a local car ..
as we are still standing out side the hospital 'cooling down' it is then at this point to we decide to move from the area and to try move to motel to avoid being dragged into the situation as there is know one present who was able to get re involved with us at this point however at this point you guys continue to to push a few of our members including my self who where avoiding the conflict when we were not engaging and trying to leave.
in regards to QE -
again in the original sandy clip i posted at (5.03) its shown in ooc to which i believe was a fellow grove member141 calls out the poor rp and shooting and the response from 250 speaks for its self but none the less QE was not attended by either side.
tbh i know that ballas can provide a much better rp than just VDMING someone you could have choose many other rp ways..
i really don't have anything further at this point to add so i will let staff have a look and decide from here
new clip -
https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/la4PacT04Ew3SOBMP?invite=cr-MSxPRGQsMjM2NDI5NzE1&v=297