Police Zerg.

Ronniie · Sunday at 9:23 PM

Have a suggestion that will probably be instantly denied or frowned on here but I feel someone has to say something, But the current state of the server with serval main gangs gone & players dropping off left, right & centre we don't need the mass's of police there is, IMO.

So I suggest capping the police force like Whitelisted gangs are not to 25 but to a fair amount that can either attend certain crimes, dispatches or panics or just a general daily cap on the force.

More & more situations are becoming increasingly unfair unless your a squadron of 25 because police know that 1 tap of a panic button changes the course of roleplay, they have the best of kit & every resource at catching criminals without 30+ head armoured, 5.56 shooters covered by a sniper in black-hawk & MPAS. More risk assessments should be made rather than Panicking knowing it will turn into a gun fight & more investigations further enquires & so on.

Seeing far to many police not wanting 30 minutes or so's worth of Roleplay the criminals way but wanting to spend 30 minutes coughing & spluttering with NHS to then be able to finally arrest the person anyway.

Introducing a rotor or such would possible help with the mass's of police being able to roam.

Pros:
More roleplay is able to unfold.
Actually be aloud to be a criminal for more than 60 minutes.

Cons: some feds will have to wait to go out on patrol.

Ronniie · 2025-07-01T14:00:48+0100

Maverick Delta said:
In all honesty there is no point going back and fourth as clearly this is going nowhere.

That's your opinion which is fine & valid

Maverick Delta said:
Again I strongly belive firearms have never turned up to a minor incidents and sometimes start shooting. However as this has happened “countless times” feel free to prove me wrong.

They have & did last night.

Maverick Delta said:
Firearms don’t make it bigger, they turn up to stop the situation, the gangs choose to make it bigger or back down, don’t pass the blame.

You see the pattern? completely defensive!

Maverick Delta said:
Can you clearly lay out what you want police and gangs to do differently.

Well that's the whole point of the thread but you've directed it else where, It's so everyone can suggest not me & you go back on forth.

Maverick Delta said:
As I want firearms to sit at the station all night so I get easier cops to fight

Please don't keep throwing shade lad thus will gain you no medals either. I'm not after fighting feds hence the thread for firearms to reign it in some! That's simply what we're asking for. Firearms to chill with it, tone it down if you like not for any advantage or to kill all the probies! purely so roleplay can properly commence.

Maverick Delta said:
the second someone shoots a firearms 15 bored officers all turn up at the same time

Well this happens now?

AndreClark · 2025-07-01T14:09:29+0100

Ronniie said:
That's your opinion which is fine & valid

They have & did last night.

You see the pattern? completely defensive!

Well that's the whole point of the thread but you've directed it else where, It's so everyone can suggest not me & you go back on forth.

Please don't keep throwing shade lad thus will gain you no medals either. I'm not after fighting feds hence the thread for firearms to reign it in some! That's simply what we're asking for. Firearms to chill with it, tone it down if you like not for any advantage or to kill all the probies! purely so roleplay can properly commence.

Well this happens now?

Again, can you provide the clip of firearms spraying when turning up to a dispatch? We need to see that this has actually happened. Because if it has, this does need addressing as it's not conduct at all. If we can see it from what you saw, changes can be made and we can see exactly what you're speaking about (we weren't there)

Maverick Delta · 2025-07-01T14:10:48+0100

Ronniie said:
That's your opinion which is fine & valid

Unfortunately yes, threads identical to these come up every few months unfortunately rather than constructive debates I am getting told I am sucking up for a promotion or have my responses egg planted….

Maybe this would come better from another party less targeting firearms and more focused on a balanced solution.

Ronniie said:
They have & did last night.

Do you have any video? I have been in this community long enough to know there is 2 sides to every story. I am not saying g you are lying I just know there is more than likely context missing.

cvppa · 2025-07-01T16:31:12+0100

From a mostly crim main, gonna have to -1 this.

Same thread comes up every 6 months or so yet the dynamics of how gangs/police work doesn't change.

Alex Taylor · 2025-07-01T16:41:09+0100

Nikolai said:
are you saying this because of no higher has replied to this thread or do you have proof that they don't take it serious?

I have been trying to keep up with this wall of text and did reply briefly a few pages back

There seems to be a narrative being pushed which is largely based on speculation and misinformation as to how the police actually operate without any actual evidence or examples.

Armed policing strategies set out by SFC are a direct response to the level of firearms offences in the city using intelligence and arrest reports to gain a wider picture.

Group leads do also have direct access to police leads and we often reach out to one another to discuss various issues as they arise.

I think one MAJOR point most people are forgetting which hasn’t been mentioned is Wanted Level (G5.6). If you’re a known criminal with a plethora of firearms offences in the past or a member of an OCG renown for firearms offences, what kind of response should you be expecting?

If a response officer rocks up to a shop robbery and sees big Ronnie Trapps car parked outside with markers for OCGs, firearms and violence - should he still go in without firearms backup? Does that constitute NVL?

You may see a large amount of police vehicles chasing a suspect through the city and think “holy shit that seems massively disproportionate” but without the context surrounding that pursuit, you’re not in a position to make that judgement.

There’s absolutely work to be done on our side of the coin, we’re continuously pushing for better standards and professionalism however it’s a two way street. I’d love to see a server where only Trojan officers could carry sidearms and rifles locked in safes but the server and economy, in my opinion, is too far gone for that. Guns are too plenty and bank accounts are stacked. You’ve got people with a 120k+ CitID with access to automatic firearms with multi million pound supercars already

It used to take time, effort and roleplay to forge the connections and means to be able to buy those things…

Ronniie · 2025-07-01T18:03:06+0100

Alex Taylor said:
There seems to be a narrative being pushed which is largely based on speculation and misinformation as to how the police actually operate without any actual evidence or examples.

Obviously with-out clip bombing the thread we're not going to have those but everyone has a "story" to tell in one way or another & plenty examples.

Alex Taylor said:
Group leads do also have direct access to police leads and we often reach out to one another to discuss various issues as they arise.

Haven't been in groups for a while so will have to keep updated there

Alex Taylor said:
Wanted Level (G5.6). If you’re a known criminal with a plethora of firearms offences in the past or a member of an OCG renown for firearms offences, what kind of response should you be expecting?

Its true but where do we draw the line & actually allow things to unfold because as police I'm sure you could shut a lot more situations down & piss a lot more people off if you wanted the same way you could drawn the line, both ends are expecting the same out-come atm & thats a shootout so people are already ready & prepared for that.

Alex Taylor said:
If a response officer rocks up to a shop robbery and sees big Ronnie Trapps car parked outside with markers for OCGs, firearms and violence - should he still go in without firearms backup? Does that constitute NVL?

He should know that he need's all the back up he can get if he see's big Ronnie Trapp!

Alex Taylor said:
You may see a large amount of police vehicles chasing a suspect through the city and think “holy shit that seems massively disproportionate” but without the context surrounding that pursuit, you’re not in a position to make that judgement.

Your right I'm not but when the officers are asked if it's necessary for those to be attending you get told to fuck off or they scraping your car

Alex Taylor said:
There’s absolutely work to be done on our side of the coin, we’re continuously pushing for better standards and professionalism however it’s a two way street.

Appreciate you saying that as there is & it's refreshing that it can be said, I think your right crims do need to do better and stop shooting feds for little to no reason.

Alex Taylor said:
You’ve got people with a 120k+ CitID with access to automatic firearms with multi million pound supercars already

Again your right, & its ridiculous but its only threads like this that can help change that.

Alex Taylor said:
It used to take time, effort and roleplay to forge the connections and means to be able to buy those things…

So long them days

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